I spoke under the title " aliens? Scum, scum, scum! "them (I ask those interested to observe the local comment line), that all may hierseienden aliens only" sneaky scum, low rabble, cowardly rabble "might be, and cried, not necessarily expecting that many participants would find , by inciting to fathom it were a little competition, which is why I come to this harsh judgments.
(Readers Thomas's question whether will apply in the NWO-hell-market economy or socialism, the latter as inmates cheaper einschätzend, tipped the scales, so to speak, that game end, crossed the finish line.)
So we put the case that, as claimed by believers commonly, various varieties aliens buzzing around here, more physical, maybe that is to say, at least in fashion, and "trans-dimensional". And it (but it is irrelevant for this discussion, whether "trans-dimensional" case) give it quite a few very maliciously evil, just wanted to reprogram the human race (possibly also genetically), exploit, make a slave armies, to which Behufe However, other hinwiederum, which are quite right dear.
Those loved ones who - often argued about as by reader Lisa and readers Dude - activities only intervene want to at least reveal / can / may, if "humanity", after all, sufficient humanity, so well developed that it would make sense because, to put it bluntly: Blödel should be allowed to be Blödel until they are no longer of itself.
Speak at least two weighty things against this common line of argument.
If one follows - as above, so below - this view, one should logically include demand that one should a child does not show how to do decent in the toilet, yes, give modern education also, that you would rape quasi when Fractions him unceremoniously beibrächte instead that it even came to the matter of the return fraction, it could inflict upon even a few sentences to Cicero's Orator at the earliest after the selbsterstandenen Great Latinum.
Said now a "love" alien faction that here partout should not intervene, at least a little help, teach, if only inalsoweit that they create is awareness, to provide at least help themselves by revealed, so that the problem consciousness of humanity to sharpen, so they would just abschwirren, at least not look a constantly watch how bombed and massacred here.
In normal life, you name them something that is to render assistance. Who is watching, like a child running into perdition, who does not stand by his comrade in need, which is a ...: Call it how you want it. Term approaches I have supplied above.
To clarify it further: There is at least some not only so stupid that the "Love" could excuse that all here are still so stupid that aid could only hurt, so nothing should be done.
Now, of course, is many a one who believes in the "loving", argue that I knew nothing at all of how beneficial the "Love" already had how much which - had spent, on how helped many levels - possibly for thousands of years.
Pipe Cover. While I do, in fact, nothing definite thereof, if ever happened since, but I know one thing: you are not complied with, the humanity it clear that she is not here with ants and naked mole-rats and tapirs and groupers alone the indispensable duty. To afford the least, they would if they did not themselves moron, certainly have been easy and at any time such.
In short: As long as not even the "love" at least briefly, in this respect clarification creating, show they are not for me "Love".
If the "Love", the last way to excuse now be so weak that they have to fear, killed all of the "evil" for -gebeamt or to be gesonstwasst, so she can not suck much.
Then for me there is no more reason to put on the "Love": if they are only slaves of "evil".
I look forward to demur.
(And the "Love" I strongly advise to read this text and internalize. Perhaps they come anyway even to common sense and decency.)
Addendum
With even think of an excuse that might come.
The "Love" should not disclose the presence of extraterrestrials because the people then only outside help expected, then himself certainly would do nothing more. At best more verkirchen and gaga. Quark. So may simply say that there is no more help, at least not initially, before this humanoid paraphernalia not high gets his ass: Proof that aliens their (un) driven beings here, is provided, you should now first his vocabulary learn and best yet somewhat peoples grammar and syntax to power.
Supplement (II)
Could follow the argument, moreover, still, humanity would have come himself to the fact that aliens are here. Again nonsense. Firstly because many people have already come out, it was so, this claim insistent public, many of the lots in any event, at the same time that evil governments stood for a long time with evil alien factions in contact, they who themselves love (some also claim already with "love" to have alien contact), would simultaneously whether their view marginalized, ridiculed, sometimes even killed (were of "evil" aliens, perhaps even their earthly satraps, kidnapped, raped, manipulated, provided with transplants kennten which , know of what, where such and sonstnochwas befall). Well: If the - so about, at least partially overweight - true (that there are such people, Behaupter after all, latter there is undoubtedly), so there would be only right and again no excuse for the "loved ones". Very latest, now they were on duty: no longer optional.
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@ Lisa
"I am also of the opinion that it would be slow for aliens at the time to show your colors."
What came first?
The earth or man?
When the earth came first, where we were because there still?
If it has not yet given us there, people have to actually inscribedable us as the aliens, because we were still outside of what is and what is has always been called Earth.
From the dust of the earth, we should have been taken.
Who took us?
I would not have taken us!
The earth grew meanwhile, so to herself, she had at first the appearance of a nut.
On the Moon, also a lot of dust lying around. But the moon will be also formerly been part of the earth, before he then cleaved.
This was the first nuclear fission at all.
From this division still could have been good otherwise. Maybe something like an even smaller core; the smallest of all seeds.
This seed particles was then around somewhere.
For splitting nothing was there. So the seed particles waited out the time.
The period brought more space with it.
This pleased the seed particles.
But did not like the sun and then stabbed it.
Of the Samenkörchen then burst open.
And it grew and grew until it had grown into a silly nut.
The stupid nut could not even write their own name properly and so the nut got a S and there was a first essence of Nus.
The Nus was naked (from the Latin adjective nudus).
From sunbathing enough having that stupid Nus began to look for a mate. Found them also, and in 1945 it came to a first nuclear fission.
As we continue, we may still experience.
But what can already positive come out of it, if meet two stupid nude?
Perhaps the first human parasitic wasp is begotten times. Thereof a few genes, some genes thereof.
Then it would probably be harboring ala movie Alien.
The female uterus is then discarded, and from there eggs are then just set.
Finally, there is a re-population of the world with dinosaurs.
Then the only solution is a new tooth fluid.
The mind does not want to, so makes it Haschmech.
I understand the desire that the loving transdimensional finally to enter the world stage.
But I am convinced that they know very well what they do and what better not.
As a young person in question in the gross physical dimension level, our planet Earth has not nearly the holistic view of how he reveals himself from the higher dimension levels.
So I'm on the subject - for now - also said everything ... there are currently more important things, like the following: http://www.mysticalforum.ch/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21771
Ps. But yes, I would be quite well done them, sometimes to talk to them personally, and so invite them hereby cordially to come visit me. :-)
I know what, I give my spirit to the aliens, then I can finally be only Haschmech again.
@ Dude
It is underground, even if the FEMA camps rather overground ...
And if the establishment of the US-drone FEMA dictatorship would have something to do with the topic here ...
It fit yes to what you said above, because of the unrest, etc. that break or even could be stoked, would here if aliens were revealed / disclosed.
People, going to the link from the dude up! Absolutely!
Here extra again: http://www.mysticalforum.ch/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21771
"And if the establishment of the US-drone FEMA dictatorship would have something to do with the topic here ..."
I can not even rule out completely honest.
But the subject is so complex already (for the most even too complex, while in our sheep media is not a beep to - surprise, surprise * lol * - and it will also blog part, hardly touched) enough ...
In addition, 'think' I know that no aliens are required for these plans ...
@ Dude
For setting up and charging of concentration camps people need certainly not aliens. The motivation to this, of himself alone grow.
That our sheep media ignore Obama's latest coup is the only logical. Some might even scratch your head, and with their drones plans, as also our federal government, even as to the legality of Germany to remain in NATO, unpleasant questions.
@ Haschmech
Not a bad idea to give them your mind.
Maybe they will have enough of them to run away either or otherwise behaving like decent guests.
@ All
No, the thing is not through. What I like linked below, wrote, referring to this strand.
https://unzensiert.zeitgeist-online.de/2013/02/14/von-the-napoleonen-in-weltnetz/
Also there was in talks from human kindergarten speech (I have not only with my children talked, as they were very small already shown my face to do so), of what "benevolent" aliens would have done it for a bother to us their help umpteen times offered various governments (which is why only those?); and then the constant assertion of "Transdimensionalität".
Yes jetzet; I'm not just meat. Before that, I should solidify?
And again there are the "ones" that so worried about us that they would rather not talk to us; and I was the little jerk, cribs occupant (there are actually also a kind Außeridischen-Ritalin for those like me?), the stop not even understand it.
And then I should just watch any Konkoktationen, read up how everything was, otherwise I was learning a little resistant Hortignorant.
Sounds to me according to what I know of our present human (?) Education system. Just curious that children who registered with me for many years usually have fairly decent student achievement. Without drugs. This is probably because I practically nothing, at best superficial, understood by Transdimensionalität.
(The very Gelobete was the way Lisa, see link above, the Liar Liar flat Goofy course I do. Dude came away not bad.)
What the heck. Yes, it should but what.
I am used to for a long time, to be dismissed in all so-called "spiritual" subjects of not a few narrow-minded; I wonder but then, why take some sublime Allwisse on my Swabian help students gauge at all? Suddenly help, care? But the more intelligent and lernwilligeren rest not?
Or do I get the not only with that all the other retarded lovingly cared for with an appropriate understanding?
No, in fact, I do not get with.
I see what is going on in schools, what's in the paper.
Them to go gaga me to domesticate, must probably deduced logically, there are a special interest. Otherwise, it's routine. Here you have to work a little harder but is desbehufs. I feel honored. But not very.
I can piece together me what's behind it. There are also doing quite obvious together several factors. One, two, are described in the above-Linked.
From the fear was already mentioned. I expliziere now not again closer.
Thomas has very well pointed to the fourth factor. You esoteert. A wellness program one has chosen. You do not want to face. Course.
It's me now, at this point, and certainly not more urgent to determine the presence or absence of aliens here, but about how this manipulation and subterfuge act to make.
Get a personal world dream backyard to build. The small Goeller may quiet times running around the front, I look at the also like to, otherwise there is not so much to see Funny, where he may meet on some street robber yes; shoot them from him, so I'm not yet confirmed, he wants it no other way, but in my backyard, I'm sure. (Does not apply to Thomas.)
Back again, but, to the nuclei of the thing: how can merely claimed that any stranger come to such a trust Vorschusse, as he repeatedly was visible here, everywhere spread? Who's that in kindergarten?
Due to some dubious books, dubious, daherbehauteter Runterkanalereien that would make an already structurally only more suspicious, a few cobbled together by? Statements of old women with glowing eyes?
No: I already spoke of it, that I will not let up here, it's that I still could think of something, be it to ridicule, be it that of a sufficiently irritates me is.
"How can merely claimed that any strangers arrive at such a Vertarauensvorschusse, as he repeatedly was visible here, everywhere spread?"
I'll try to answer times versimplifiziert's.
There are loving and evil people.
So there is also loving and malicious extraterrestrials or Transdimensional (the multidimensional quantum computer is known to be gigantic in size, even from ground already detectable or measurable terms, let alone beyond).
So I like to refer to Armin Risi:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/31413026/Risi-Armin-Unsichtbare-Welten-Astrale-und-au%C3%9Ferirdische-Wesen-im-Hintergrund-des-Weltgeschehens
http://armin-risi.ch/Artikel/Ufos/Tierverstuemmelungen_-_ein_Zusammenhang_mit_Ausserirdischen.html
http://armin-risi.ch/Artikel/Vedisch/UFO-Beschreibungen.html
http://www.politaia.org/wissenschaft-forschung/vedische-high culture-armin-risi/
@ Lisa & All
I now take your last comment again all the way in, so I am in my criticism - yes I did, see above, but recovered like it - do not quote zutode:
"Aliens back and forth, ultimately you have to do everything yourself. You live alone, we die alone. The responsibility can simply remove a nobody. The nice thing is that holds all the resources in himself to bear this responsibility can.
I am also of the opinion that it would be slow for aliens at the time to show your colors. But there may be also the true colors in their own perception. And the important thing is what you yourself know is right.
So far, so good ... "
First, it ultimately does not have to do everything yourself. I cook not only for my children. Some even helped people die. There are parents, friends, there is love. Children do not seem to occur in your universe.
Second, the color is profess because of possibly only in one's own perception lying not fundamentally wrong, but distracting from the matter, some said smoothly, here inappropriate, hollow claptrap.
Third, not only is important, something that was recognized as important. To explain this, I can save now the words.
Yes, and so far so good is 'not at all'.
It was and is still on again, I'll German and clear.
@ Dude
Well then: Why then the unfounded leap of faith for any not displayed Sonstnochwasse?
Just because we're stuck in a dual constructed quantum computer, and thus both good, and evil aliens bob through these ...
Sure you have to be very careful, especially malignant often appear in white cloak ... ... The Elohim send their regards.
@ Dude
I dümpele not, and I'm not stuck.
You are also not alien! :-D
And if you like this "stuck" does not fit, then I could either "exist verstofflicht" also offer. ;-)
Now it's down to business ...
"First, you have to eventually do everything yourself." MG
Yet. Of course, one man gets into his world, which are helpful - even those that are less helpful - and it looks as if you have nothing to do, because the thoughts, ideas, beliefs are not aware of. Some even believe that one does not die at euthanasia alone. Of course, before children come into my world. I even think that my children were with the greatest motivation to know more.
"Secondly, the color is profess because of possibly lying only in their own perception. ... "MG
Everything is in one's own perception. Where else?
"Third, not only is important, something that was recognized as important." MG
Yet. Because only this one has understood and if you really understood it's own knowledge, no matter how important and CORRECT it may look to others. Of course you can be inspired. But to take at face value other opinions, even if they come from the smartest people or of "aliens" or other spirits, I do not consider useful. I know that something is right for me when it feels as if I always knew that. Something like that.
"Wellness program ... wishful thinking ..."
Again is the imagination in the pillory, while it is one of the most effective "mental tools". What good is it to stare at the more than unpleasant states of the world. One must recognize, however, from this point must be another program is selected, a wish, an intention, even a vision to be expressed so that the states can change. Fight - resistance, denial - only strengthens the combated, because all the energy flows in the non-willed. That is logical.
I understand the fears and the desire to control what exactly causes the current conditions. But the longed-for control over events is not to get into "the outer darkness", but only in spirit, from the inside out, so to speak. But that was already discussed in the topic "beliefs" in detail.
And yes, everyone should be a "wellness program" have and realize it too. However, that can be reached without self-knowledge hardly. So, whatever one it turns and turns, at the beginning there is the self-knowledge and then you are also able to recognize God and the world. This requires not aliens, but rather a basic knowledge of the mechanisms of consciousness, and which are not linear and logical in the usual sense. They are like magic, the only one term for something that can not (yet) know.
To know and learn (to remember) would be reason in my eyes!
@ Dude
Where do you want to know if I am not "benevolent", "trans-dimensional"'m alien who only occasionally as Magnus herumlatscht to here to create awareness?
@ Lisa
Well, you nurse a magic through and through the world.
However, it is certainly only partially correct or zuwenigst been effective.
You speak of "more than unpleasant states" in this world, they do already bezeichnetest as hell. So you have negative perceptions, not just too few, which can only come from yourself, according to your logic. Sad.
I was here in this world already in an average kind of hell, because I've depperterweise herbeiimaginiert me a heavy injury and then to some imaginary medi cynical staff fill a top set. So I have then even those who tortured me pointless to programmed. I have on this planet anyway, as I say, in the whole cosmos, invented all the bad guys.
Fortunately, I see no means a hell, even if I should have made them. Since I went with my wellness program apparently already more than you.
But I also see duties, not just freestyle. And this, although I am very freedom-loving, not mine, to have to pray five times a day and such more nonsense.
Just because I see great distress that I have but, thus made according to my picture of the world, not herbeiimaginiert alone, great privileges learned as to have time to learn, I mean that it will not do, just somewhere for something a few reasonable tap off Euronen, but, yes, that I was a traitor, I did not try it, best to pass something.
Many do it; so you will be CEO of Deutsche Bank or Goldman Sachs and ruined a cold smile all countries. (Well, there are a few more than sufficient Euros, which was once sufficient for this.)
Specifically yet. Allda I do not see that from other alone sufficient is exactly captured and told what to capture and tell you to bring humanity after 99 years of world war and art murder (again) to higher frequencies, I mean me in my view at least partially ability to do so however, not only herbeiimaginiert, but acquired in thousands of hours of hard work, I am this, not only in the long program, but also a duty.
Of course, the inner contradiction of your worldview arises already from the simplest to the fact that other act, for my sake only imagine and perceive. Alsomit meet different will, unless you live only among wolves and bears. Sometimes, however, are also hungry or simply ill-tempered, having a bad day, without you something for it or against it can at least initially.
On the one hand you postulierst, one can ignore the will of the other easy, so they are no longer perceived, are ineffective, on the other hand you see she apparently yes, even unförderliche, simply still. Then, as I said above, it works at least not really, with the thinking away the jobs created by other reality.
The only way your philosophy so effectively implement, would be to perceive anything. Then you can be sure that you only see what you want, namely logically prefer nothing in fact.
Well, what do you recite, like for you anyway fold, since you're with this inner contradiction - have somehow set up - so it works perfectly. You tell him you just go away, or, more conveniently, repress it schlichtemang, can live with it.
But why it is not nonexistent. Whether you want the now perceive, or not.
Besides: I've seen quite a few young as well as older people, their worldview about as built up as you. I do not know when I saw only once, that turned out okay for herself and for others.
And because of this irreducible, at least on this dimension inner contradiction. An unfulfilled imagination chases the other, to that end.
Your eloquence, I've said often, certainly impressed me; many will have their oppose hardly anything; therefore I now have again a bit longer, my object point to explain so that my line of argument from anyone who wants to, can be understood should.
The still: No, you're just nevertheless not wise. Ultimately, not even, there should be such a thing for yourself.
Except eloquent but you're probably know plenty tough and persistent. It can thus already be still.
Best wishes
Magnus
PS: Nietzsche was undoubtedly an incomparably greater "magician" as Crowley. Of those two Indians I've heard a few good spells, but nothing more.
Magnus
Well, I know you ...;) In addition deceive me my intuition only allerseltenst, but never when spirit and emotion in symbiosis base their impression even more. :-)
As for your line of reasoning to Lisa, I see it very similar. It is fatal to simply hide the Malignant in the world and the inhumane structures, and therefore not actively and consciously to compete against it, because that they do not disappear, but can be even further in order to expand freely, which is why the focus on it in my opinion. Not doing.
"The path of the righteous is lined on both sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Was the one who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness blessed. For he is the true guardian of his brother and the finder of lost children. "(Ezekiel 25-17 from Pulp Fiction)
If one thinks logically, the "law of attraction" to the end, you have to take full responsibility for all the events in their own world - and yes, everyone lives in a sense in his world - take over. And here get off the most. Since it is nevertheless rather sacrifice any organizations or other people - victims of external circumstances.
But never mind. All roads lead to him self. Sooner or later.
"It is fatal to simply hide the Malignant in the world and the inhumane structures, and therefore not actively and consciously to compete against it ..." Dude
How do you get that I hide it? Only, once you have found it, staring out the Kontraproduktivste what you can do. Therefore, the whole action "against" ineffective. On the contrary, he is feeding what one wants to fight. The action has to be adjusted in the "inner" first ...
I regret to say that we have obviously talked past each other.
@ Lisa
I was sitting just five hours with a new friends in beers, stories, dirty jokes, laughter, aphorisms: the beers were only's fours.
I stare not on the Fix. Sometimes this may be true, but overall I'm doing something else.
Nor is it true that you, one imagines against certain machinations, yet giving them food. Only when it hires wrong.
Lisa
"I am sorry to say that we have obviously talked past each other."
I think not. We just have a slightly different view, though many parallels can be seen.
I've posted exactly on this topic in great detail tonight; Although not quite five hours, but almost ...
http://www.mysticalforum.ch/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=21748&p=208032#p208032
(The thread is certainly worthwhile in its entirety;-))