Our hard

We are facing the urgermanischsten celebrations of all festivals.

Whoever still wants to take to him strange Ochs- and ass stature, me does not matter now.

I wish now that the real solstice, all readers great courage and a lot of power.

Children, family, love.

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22 Responses to "Our hard"

  1. Dude says:

    So be it.

    In the new world will better than the old one.

    Light
    Love
    Peace
    Bliss
    Unit in an infinite variety of diversity.

  2. Thomas says:

    Like everyone wish me what he wants -
    I do not begrudge him again so much!

    In this sense, all of you from me a happy and quiet time!

  3. Joseph says:

    @ Magnus

    It's been a long time since I had promised myself today on "Weltuntergangstag" to report here; Not only that, we both agree that time had come to analyze this day in all its consequences and documented. But I think that not worth it and so serious that had been certainly not at that time also meant the two of us. Because rather than otherwise will not happen today. But I keep my promises, and I am therefore here today.

    Magnus, you are a man of correct and thoughtful word. At the top of your short text you speak of the "Solstice". If we, that is, when our earth is in orbit around the sun, since it would not mean more "earth turn" instead solstice?

    I once entered the word "solstice" in the major search engine; originally intended this word come from Latin or Greek, not from the Germanic language; and it means: Heliostásion, stop the sun '.

    It is also clear from the text of this Resting the sun would happen twice a year. Why is a fixed star only twice silent in the year? If the sun after the Helio-centric view of the world does not stand still employed?

    If the Earth is to the sun in an orbit, then it would be our planet but actually resting on the so-called Solstice apparently twice within a year.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnenwende

    When you next time follows the text solstice at wikipedia, he reads always the case that the sun is in a race and not the Earth, "the sun reaches over a solar year" - would not the earth during its course reach certain points ?; "At this moment the sun ... ..to versa" - would not mean it that the earth is reversed?

    "This maximum declination reaches twice a year" - by which is meant the sun, but really ought to come to earth twice on these points during its course around the sun.

    And then a little further below under "Definition" even talking about:

    "Geocentric's seen a fictitious observer at the center of the earth from."

    Forwarded "geocentric" of the word, to get to: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geozentrisch

    As it is, then: The Geozentrum (. Of Greek γῆ Ge, "the earth"), and the center of the Earth is the center of gravity of the earth ".

    - From what the Earth's core is made, no one knows, there is only Thorien about it. One can therefore assume a theoretical focus. A center of something can only but if all the points that lie around it then it equidistant.

    The moon, the sun seems circular, too, but from the Earth takes you to a different form.

    "Because the earth is not a sphere in the mathematical sense."

    So the Earth is now a ball or is not she?

    It is also said that the earth would rather have the shape of a potato. So there are very different forms in a potato - where is the accuracy of the science, especially mathematics?

    I clicked on the "Geozentrum" page the word "focus" on, came to the "center of mass" and from then on "torus".

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus

    As already found in the introduction to the article: "The title of this article is about."

    "A torus (plural Tori; from Latin torus, bulge ') is a bead-shaped geometric structure, ..."

    A "geometric structure" - that is very scientifically accurate is not.

    Further down on the page then: "You can in the torus surface, a surface of genus 1 is topologically (ie, it has a hole).

    Bzogen on the earth, so this could have a hole - there is also the theory of a hollow earth.

    The word torus there are in Hebrew and it means "skull". Golgotha ​​is actually called Golgotha ​​and it is the Greek translation of the torus. The famous place, the Golgotha ​​where Jesus said to have been crucified, whom everyone knows. Originally called the "Kρανίου [Τόπος] (" [place of] skull [s] "" Source: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golgota

    What I want is the incontrovertible fact that everything that is happening around us, whether that is in the most remote places of the universe or anything that goes on inside our minds, including all known theories include everything located in one place - in our skull and there in the brain. I wrote once that nothing is everything and everything is nothing; and innerghalb what time it is happening because I have come for me to believe that everything happens in an instant. A Nu turn is almost nothing.

    What's in the word "solstice"? Basically, it means nothing. Perhaps the mold after our planet does not look as like a potato, but what if they would look like the shape of a human skull after more?

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekliptikale_L%C3%A4nge

    Why Ede is represented as a center here?

    It seems to me almost like trying to impose a Heliocentrism humans. Must be, for how can you justify otherwise sun worship.

    You speak of "urgermanischsten celebrations of all festivals". Why then does the word come from Latin or Greek? I'll tell you, because it has something to do with their mythology, to be more precise, with the sun god. This is the God Apollo, Apollo and Apollyon or written. So it looks like:

    http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Apollo1.JPG&filetimestamp=20060318211402

    He looks very similar to Jesus not as it is usually shown in pictures. Whoever commits the feast of the solstice celebration, which also honored so that the sun god Apollyon (also called Abaddon). - You have almost all mankind can get them to do that. Even those who say they were incredulous that fall for the trick of Mithraskultanhänger.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnengottheit

    Fits on what and whom you worship by celebrates his feast.

  4. Magnus Wolf Goller says:

    @ Joseph

    I pray to the solstices at nothing. (By the way, is of the accepted science of the sun only in relation to the earth silent, otherwise it spins also a galactic center.)

    Ultimately, the solstices are of course only high and low points of a sine curve.

    But one of those that just yet determined our life very much.

    Pause and celebrate at these points, so as a matter of course.

    If you argumentierst so, and that the word comes from Greek or Latin roots and thus not just from the Germanic, you go right much fail; Greek and Latin, like German Indo-European languages, whose common elements whose ancestry was discovered by a "Proto-Germanic" by the Brothers Grimm and is challenged by any "normal" linguist more. The evidence for this are legion.

    This language family, goes back to before an Egyptian or Hebrew knew only to inflict any significant, at least yet traditional mischief.

    That one then aufpropfte this Child Jesus story on our Yule, as his alleged death on the lunisolar certain Ostarafest etc., followed alone power reasons; you besatzte similar to our places Thing (holy groves) with churches simply our festival calendar, to erase the old cults that. Also, the suitably documented.

    The fact that most Christians want to know anything, yes nu.

    Is that just too embarrassed that they have all just zerlogen and stolen.

    Of course. I celebrate Christmas with them anyway, our Yule.

    If someone worships the sun, so to speak, by Christ, whose birth hingetürkte at this time, worship, so is the the thing. I know about the relationships and do not do that.

    I have, in a sense, especially when I was quite cold before, already quite often that Erderwärmungsklimamonster called Sol worshiped as a glorious morning came and he (she) sent me first rays of light.

    So what?

    Is quite normal, has nothing to do with this whole ägyptoiden Religonsmeiern.

    Look at times the Elhaz rune on. (In the Nordic and the one-rune.)

    Thus, upright, with arms raised, one can ever "pray".

    Just do not like the Mussulman on knees, turnip clapping in the sand, or the Christian, or equal with folded hands humbly merged, a beggar.

    Cosmic energy admit in itself, perhaps radiate good thoughts themselves, anyone can. Upright but at least advance the attitude better.

    If still not pollute the mind of a lie, does not like too hurt.

    Since we Swabians have decided anyway to not allow the end of the world because of us would be too expensive (in addition to all the Fegerei), he does not even place today.

    A lot of courage and a lot of power!

  5. Lisa says:

    "Cosmic Energy admit to yourself, maybe even radiate good thoughts, anyone can. Upright but at least advance the attitude better. "MG

    In any case. Yes, it has a lot of "cosmic energy" and can be absorbed now - if you want - and energy is known, information, knowledge. So a wonderful year and the window of the probabilities for the "Perspective" will remain open for a while (2010 to 2015), so that you have enough opportunity to acquire this knowledge. How to do it is not important, but believers of any religion have a hard time because they provide "full of the spirit" are, so to speak.

    Even me best wishes for the beginning of a new era that stands out more clearly. I would also like to thank you for the many inspiring conversations and would like more next year. Then there is something to keep in mind what I consider to be groundbreaking ....

    The present is not the result of the past.
    The present is the result of the present.

    Had you well!

  6. Magnus Wolf Goller says:

    @ Lisa

    Also you best wishes and a big thank you for the diverse enrichment that brought you here.

  7. Magnus Wolf Goller says:

    @ Lisa

    Thus, the children, even the overnight guest with Habba supplied, it seems to have tasted, time for a break from writing (a break for writing).

    Of course, it interessert me very much, which is why you hervorhebst the period 2010-2015 as separately.

    Your proverbial wisdom down I wanted to be just standing so; it corresponds to the ideas that I know of you.

    I think I have fairly understood what you mean; this is very "existentialist"; I have argued that the past but strongly feeds into the present.

    Alone our knowledge, so our having seen, our memory, caused not inconsiderable our ability to make our now.

    I suspect - as well as in the "beliefs" came over to me - that you have been very aware provoke with such statements, because the impression of a wacky Esotante you do so now, if only by virtue of which language and logic, by no means.

    I think that's quite right; You give the people what to bite; I only see the danger that you order some überforderst. Maybe even yourself.

    The requirements to live along such notions, namely, at least not insignificant, if not to say tremendous.

    But you make quite the impression as if you verstündest to master. And it is to the effect of spreading far my Behuf, doubt, even pull end into your soul.

    What surprised me at the same time and still would be surprising is that because a woman is thinking as radical as the nowadays hardly a man more familiar (yes, some which chatter there is still enough; en masse is rüber- and rumgeseelt is geseiert and postulated and wisdom proclaims, usually a Konkokt, a blend of Hindu and Ägyptizismus to Taoism and back again, something must be yes spiri and rausgeschwätzt whether the day now just short or long).

    I wish you that you think through this, without taking any damage.

    I mean to leave me usually do not put any slightly absurd fleas in his ear; at least some oddities you have brought with me but already in my thoughts rooms.

    Now I have it in January first through when the libertarian Thomas hits the Liebelichtduder, to my friend R. extra specialist, and finally even those notoriously weak in faith I.

    If you sometime - even previously - roam the Neckar shore, I saw love to have you times (as I said before, but repeat it) personally.

    Lately, I am learning not just daily, but often interesting people, often artists acquainted with diverse backgrounds. This is a very positive development.

    The desire to offer is my hand. Then you can come back at any time.

    LG

  8. Lisa says:

    I'm just while packing because I travel a very early tomorrow - in the south. So very briefly ...

    First, thank you for the invitation. I'll leave that like any synchronicities ... The time window for the development I have taken from a very, very intelligent beings. It appealed to me spontaneously and so I think that it's true.

    The provocation is just there, of course, to encourage thinking or taking a different perspective. Of course, the past has influence, if you allow it. But it's like the beliefs; to choose from. Because the past is generated anyway in the present, you can still tinker a past that is pleasing. And then this has a positive effect on the present, etc. But in reality, everything is natural now ...

    Incidentally, it is not "harmful" to be radical, that is at the root (or source) to come to its own. I can not imagine anything better.

    All one needs is love
    (Knowing and appreciation) -)

  9. Magnus Wolf Goller says:

    @ Lisa

    First, I wanted to mention at least for the month because everything is so beautiful and good world stairway. But I'm not just created it.

    You wear before your magical worldview in a straightforwardness, at the same time knowing deceit, targeting, and yet never quite irrefutable stringency that now, since even Spain should have escaped the global destruction, in this respect just once due to my unqualified praise for such art. Not as Weihnachtsgschenk; I rejoiced me already and often said that; but this is the accolade by me, unless I may use this metaphor.

    This is more than just "cocky". Above all, it is concise.

    You build Karrusselle. And since I already saw a few of those, it is clear that since conception, sometimes perhaps trial and error behind it.

    And where you apparent - that's why I say apparent - einbaust logical breaks in your speech or overall argument, since it is just incorporated.

    A real speaker.

    You'll get there, I can smell together in half an hour what others do not unravel in no matter how many fortnight.

    Such irritate planned manner, at least as easy an occasion for giving to suspect no one contradicted himself or another, or even going to a any menschenverächtliche speech out there, read that right, toughest demands to the respective individual self-examination and -Establish pitching, always a ready Volte Our caregivers in hockey called the "play the opponent dizzy".

    An incredibly brash, while elastic strategy. And a good vibration. Hardest demand and to the elegant and beautiful.

    Yes, it arouses dreams. (Can it be that I labere? Yes, it can be, but Christmas draws near.) Especially mental spaces.

    The radical leads to it, altverordnete, situate things to consider new; as they are very wise not completely turns off the other discourse succeeds it.

    Ogottogott, now I have already so much herumanalysiert and -fabuliert. It seems to me good to go.

    If you think it through, you fight over no delusions or can lead, I see a great future for you.

  10. Joseph says:

    @ Magnus

    "A lot of courage and a lot of power!"

    For this, first of all thank you very much; the same I wish you and your boys too!

    On the subject of the above I would like to say the following: We both have a lot of debate about God, Jesus, the world, Christianity and the much vaunted by you disbelief.

    "The evidence is legion."

    You ever used like phrases from the Bible. Where you but such a huge vocabulary can call your own. Why do you attack then back on such hackneyed phrases you also entnimmst a book that you count to pulp fiction? I ask you and I would also ask you that question again and again.

    "But I have, to some extent, especially when I was quite cold before, already quite often that Erderwärmungsklimamonster called Sol worshiped as a glorious morning came and he (she) sent me first rays of light.

    So what? "

    Unbelievers do not pray! If they do, then they are not unbelievers. You're fallen for the same trick, fall for all the idolaters. And yes, I admit it, I am also on the fallen.

    "Sól is the sun PERSONALIZED in Norse mythology. It is attributed to the Aesir. "
    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_%28Mythologie%29

    Just because you look at the sun as a "thing" and not as a person, yet it is one and the same basically. Whether as an individual or as a "thing", it is an idol.

    "Of course. I celebrate Christmas with them anyway, our Yule. "

    I only see that evil incarnate our world has a firm grip; and even as an otherwise great mind like you. Slowly, it seems to me that both of us no longer a question that I am saved from you as to my soul, but I have to save you. You got me thinking a lot and it makes me very sad that you do when it concerns your soul, my only something erwiderst like: "So what?".

    "I pray to the solstices nothing on."

    Yes, you're doing very well.

    "As the anniversary of the Invictus (dies natalis Invicti) was the latest in the 3rd century, the 25th of December. On this date Julius Caesar had the shortest day of the year (Latin bruma) determined when the reform of the calendar, the day of the winter solstice. But Caesar's time that day had no religious significance. Since a year of Caesar named after Julian calendar is slightly longer than an astronomical year, the solstice wandered over the following centuries forward; in late antiquity, it reached 21 December. The astronomical shift was not reflected in the introduction of the birthday feast; was considered rather to the tradition, the days are getting longer after December from 25. Therefore, this day was Aurelian to state feast of the birth of the sun god. " http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_%28Gott%29

    "So, upright, with arms raised, one can ever" pray "."

    Why you put the word 'pray' in quotation marks? If you are quite something or someone worship, for that you do so, then stand but also kindly do so.

    "On the other hand, it is a historical fact that pagans worshiped a God that has much in common with today's Nicholas. This pagan deity was the old Germanic god "Wodan", also known in Scandinavia "Odin". Odin, Odin or Thor also was a sun god, who gave his life for the world of the Gentiles faith and hung for nine nights "in a tree" or on a cross, "spear pierced" by a ". http: //haroldgraf.blog .com / 2012/12/20 / christmas-christian-solid part-2-15339348 /

    When I wrote this as a comment under Mr. Graf, that his Jesus Christ is the same as the God of the Gentiles, because he has my comment not even unlocked. He is doing so as you Magnus. Others want to teach her how looks the truth and but even her fall for the biggest lie just because she has disguised as truth. At Christmas, it's nothing more than idolatry; it even goes to far worse, namely, the worship and adoration of (personalized) evil, Mammon, Lucifer, Satan, Devil, that old serpent, or whatever it is or him or her, because his family can not be determined has called.

    "Not at all like the Mussulman on knees, turnip clapping in the sand, or the Christian, with folded hands or humiliate merged, a beggar same."

    So you upright, praying with outstretched arms raised to the sky and think it to be able to detect a difference to pray, as do the Muslims or Christians, you put yourself on the cross. Because while it is and remains idolatry; and it is in absolute contradiction to everything you pretend otherwise, to think of such customs and any (personalized) deities. The Great Spirit who is in you, whom you hit with it, figuratively speaking, with his fist in the face; and you negierst you with it even. How should I take so you can still seriously?
    If you celebrate Christmas with your guys, that's not much better than if you had separated them on their eighth day of life the foreskins. On a spiritual level did you do it anyway and you're making it even every year again.

    "(By the way, is of the accepted science of the sun only in relation to the earth silent, otherwise it spins also a galactic center.)"

    When the sun only in relation to the earth stands still, as you say, then she turns around so all the other planets in our solar system? Where is because the center of the galaxy exactly? Stephen Hawking explains in his book "A Brief History of Time" that can be any point adopted the center of the galaxy. Thus, so it can be our Earth was the center of our solar system and also the center of the galaxy. All the scientists of the universe know, based only on theories. Which means basically they know nothing of how everything works, they conceive it is just that it could be the way they BELIEVE.

    Theory, means that the artificial doctrine of WHAT?

    But WHAT is the how and why things work? WHAT is God? Is the big bang adopted WHAT? WHAT is the origin of all being? Yes, God is just that: WHAT WHAT is the spirit!

    Matthew 27: 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out loud [with] voice [and] called: "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" That is [a] s is called: "My God, My God, why you leave me you! "

    I said before; WHAT kind of a bad German: "why have you forsaken me?"

    For thus saith true, My God, My God, WHAT, why hast thou forsaken me?

    The Great Spirit had thus left the body of Jesus even before it breathed his little mind. Should not that make us think?

    Greetings

    Josef

  11. Magnus Wolf Goller says:

    @ Joseph

    I used the word therefore "pray" set in quotation marks, because I never pray.

    What I described was the deliberate picking up a Vebindung with the whole. There is no idol. I do not need.

    I also wonder what you have against the sun. Stinks?

    For language: In the Bible, are words and phrases that were before the Bible there, and even if Luther here and there adding new creations, as are the now times entered in the general conversation, so I may be in terms of a biblical ref- also unconsciously use. As you know, I can not memorize the book, nor that I would have even just one full read. Shall I reinziehen me the chatter in Deuteronomicon?

    That you try me about the planetary motion, turn around the word in his mouth, paid. Also, given that you set Thor and Odin in one and then throw the claims of any Ichweißnichtwasse with my views in a pot.

    But then:

    "If you celebrate Christmas with your guys, that's not much better than if you had separated them on their eighth day of life the foreskins. On a spiritual level did you do it anyway and you're making it even every year again. "

    What you bring there is already a strong piece.

    You seem to me almost obsessively to götzenanbeterischen Abrahamites to want to do that just have not realized that he is one. Grab it, for that purpose, to this kind of baseless comparisons. This is grossly wrong.

    I forgive you, because I do not see any real evil intention with you. But all very worrying, totalitarian tendencies. Anyone who does not think like you, was an idolatrous and sunbathers. That's compulsive.

    And just because I think the whole Abrahamitentum for plenty of the track, I see no reason, every Jew, Christian or Muslim to be despised, not even with one or more of them to celebrate.

    I am looking forward to meet on Monday with family members who else I rarely see good to eat and drink, especially that my little nephew and my own children to experience a good time.

    If you keep this up, you begrudge me not even more of a glass of wine. For there is indeed the sun with drinne, and if I like it (probably even if not so much because the sun is still in it), then I again worshiped idols.

    The best there is probably no joy, no more hard. Or better yet, all would be dead simple, so no more there was a risk they could secretly perhaps celebrate.

    Since I initially remains only you, so to speak, to want out of sheer malice and obstinacy grade antics for a Merry Christmas.

  12. Magnus Wolf Goller says:

    @ Joseph

    No, I will not be so easy to get away with you.

    What do you anrichtest because that is too crass.

    The worst part is that you probably do not believe what you say.

    When I think of what this kind of obscurantism can very easily cause in already troubled souls, I think it's not even funny.

    Meanwhile, you can already make me one who is not far from the rituellmagischen Kinderverstümmler. What if people do not have to defend themselves against this kind of nonsense?

    Pretending probably vermeinend to want to "save" souls, are you telling, however, very eloquent, a bad Hennenseich that helps anyone.

    On the contrary. You could say smooth, the devil you ride. (Even if you, like me, to not believe.)

    But that's not enough: You want him more and more other ride.

    Probably also on that you no longer alone mayest be with him.

    Ever thought about it?

    It is high time to do that.

  13. Thomas says:

    The Bundestag discusses just an involuntary commitment law (in the Klappse) for Suicidal and people, endanger the "Order of the Federal Republic of Germany". If that comes through, we will, I think, all quickly locked up. Some because they are the existing system dangerous, others because they just spin ...

    I celebrate Christmas, however, I must admit, even under "duress".

  14. Magnus Wolf Goller says:

    @ Thomas

    In my case it took until I reconciled myself with Christmas. Long it seemed to me like a kind of involuntary commitment.

    Meanwhile, I'm relaxed. I'm just happy with.

    I am trying times just to be nice. Also not a bad practice, once a year, for someone like me.

    I no longer have been a long time, such as very early times as a child, still in the damn church. (Where my atheist Mr. Papa regularly, even executed distorted, decency's sake come along, more or less ostentatiously after five minutes saved a nap, woke him up that the Schlussorgelei, the ordeal was over.)

    And when it's Christmas Day at noon the Omagans was filled Swabian-festive, because I've always wanted to tables. And then never lacked, when the Black Forest cake, two days pulled against fours in the basement, was applied.

    You let them pray and just thinking of something else.

  15. Dude says:

    Josef

    Deine Sonnenphobie ist völlig verquer und schräg.
    Die Sonne ist das Symbol des Lichtes und alsomit Lebensspender. Ohne Sonne gäbe es kein grobstoffliches Leben auf Erden, und auch auf sonst keinem Planeten der keine Stern in der richtigen Entfernung als Lebensspender hat.

    Von den elektromagnetischen Effekten beginne ich jetzt gar nicht erst. Schau mal Broers' Doku: R(evolution), und denk nochmal in Ruhe drüber nach.

    Achja… lies bitte Armin Risi's “Licht wirft keinen Schatten”.

    @ Thomas

    Hast Du da nen guten Link?

    Hier gibt's das aber alles schon…
    http://www.alpenparlament.tv/playlist/609-fuersorglicher-freiheitsentzug-fuer-systemkritische-buerger

    Kein Zufall sind schon zehntausende ehrenhafte Mitbürger irgendwo in Hirnfickanstalten weggesperrt, voller Pharmagift gepumpt und zwangsverwahrt…

    Das Sanatorium ist zum Kotzen und wird immer schlimmer.

    Schöne Weihnachten euch trotzdem.

  16. Josef sagt:

    @ Magnus

    “Damit aber nicht genug: Du willst, dass er auch immer mehr andere reite.”

    Jeder muß selbst wissen was er tut, ich versuche nur die Sachlage zu erklären. Die Ungläubigen wollen sich keiner Religion zugehörig wissen, dabei ist dieser ganze Unfug sogar ursprünglich auf ihren Mist gewachsen. Und nur in diesem Zusammenhang passt auch dein Satz:

    “Was, wenn Leute sich gegen derlei Unfug nicht zu wehren wissen?”

    That is the whole point. Wenn noch nicht einmal so jemand wie du sich ggen die Anbetung bzw. Verehrung der Sonne zu wehren weißt, denn zu Weihnachten geht es um nichts anderes, dann schlägt sogar die Wahrnehmung um und Freunde werden dann als vom Teufel geritten bezeichnet. Das kannte ich bisher nur von Christen, von denen ich dachte, sie wären meine Freunde.

    “(Auch wenn man, wie ich, an den auch nicht glaubt.)”

    Wenn du schon an den nicht glaubst, warum sollte ich es dann tun; und wie sollte ich von etwas geritten werden können, was es demnach gar nicht gibt?

    “Damit aber nicht genug: Du willst, dass er auch immer mehr andere reite.”

    Im Gegenteil, ich möchte, dass er andere nicht mehr reiten kann.

    “Wohl auch, auf dass Du mit ihm nicht mehr alleine seiest.”

    Wenn ich mich nicht manchmal heftigst darum bemühe würde auch mal alleine zu sein, wäre immer mindestens eine Person um mich herum. Bin ich mal kurz weg, dann ruft man schon nach mir. Also dein Versuch mir Einsamkeit anzudichten, der schlägt gründlich fehl.

    Ich finde es höchst interessant, wie vehement du deinen Gott, die Sonne, verteidigst.

    “Wenn Du so weiter machst, gönnst Du mir nichtmal mehr ein Glas Wein.”

    Doch, das gönne ich dir sehr wohl. Und ich gönne es dir auch von Herzen, dass du im Wein die Weisheit findest. – Es hat alles seinen Sinn; dass wir uns im Netz trafen, dass ich mit anderen in ähnlicher Weise Kontakt hatte, dass ich mich intensiv mit dem Christentum befasst habe, auch all das, was ich in meinem Blog ansprach, bis ich erkannt habe, wem ich damit diene, obwohl ich das gar nicht wollte – vielleicht bist du einfach noch nicht an dem Punkt angekommen, den ich erreicht habe. Aber ich weiß, dass auch du nahe dran bist. Ich hoffe es zumindest für dich.

    Wenn aber selbst so jemand wie Dude, der sich alleine dem Geist angehörig wähnt, zum Schluß noch den Satz losläßt –

    “Schöne Weihnachten euch trotzdem.”

    - dann weiß ich, was die Stunde geschlagen hat und warum ein allgemeines Aufwachen in unserer Welt im Grunde so gut wie unmöglich ist. Und ich bin zutiefst darüber enttäuscht, dass gerade solche klugen Menschen wie ihr immer noch auf den ältesten Trick der Welt herein fallt.

    Dude sagt es selbst und merkt es offenbar nicht: “Die Sonne ist das Symbol des Lichtes und alsomit Lebensspender.”

    Richtig Dude, die Sonne ist das Symbol des Lichtes, mehr aber auch nicht!
    Der Weihnachtsbaum ist ein Symbol für die Sonne wie auch das Kreuz, für das er steht und man ehrt damit den sogenannten Sonnengott, den Leibhaftigen. Und der hat euch alle fest beim Wickel; sogar die ganze Menschheit hat er beim Wickel und es scheint ihr gar nicht bewußt zu sein. Die Sonne ist kein Lebensspender, sondern sie bringt den Tod. Denn wenn unserer Planet nicht über alle seine Schutzhüllen verfügen würde, dann würden wir alle gebraten werden. Setze dich nur mal in die Wüste und nehme kein Wasser mit. Was meinst du wohl, wie lange du es da zusammen mit deinem Lebensspender aushältst?

    “Am besten gäbe es wohl keine Freude, gar kein Fest mehr.”

    Iritiert es dich nicht selbst, dass du auf dieses Weihnachtsfest so erpicht bist? Wenn nicht – was hat dich so blind werden lassen? Du wirfst dich dafür sogar selbst in einem Topf mit den Christen und deren Gott, die du ansonsten immer vorgibst, so sehr zu verachten. Immer dagegen zu reden und dann aber doch letztendlich wieder Toleranz zu zeigen, das paßt irgendwie nicht zusammen. Das ist so, wie wenn jemand sagen würde: die bösen Nazis und dann aber sagt, nun ja, so böse waren sie nun auch wieder nicht.

    “Oder besser noch, alle wäre einfach tot, damit keinerlei Gefahr mehr bestünde, sie könnten heimlich vielleicht doch feiern.”

    Die Menschen sind alle tot! Es wäre schön, wenn sie wieder lebendig würden. Aber dafür braucht es wohl eine viel zu große Menge an Geist.

    “Was Du da anrichtest, das ist zu krass.”

    Das verbuche ich als Kompliment von dir, mein lieber Freund.

    Thomas sagt: “Ich feiere Weihnachten allerdings, muss ich zugeben, auch nur unter “Zwang”.”

    Zwang ist ein gutes Wort dafür. Sehr viele braucht man aber nicht dazu zu zwingen, die tun es sogar freiwillig – den Leibhaftigen verehren.

    http://haroldgraf.blog.de/2012/12/20/weihnachten-christliches-fest-teil-1-15339251/

    Der Herr Graf irrt nur in einem Punkt, Weinachten ist sehr wohl ein christliches Fest und es ist sogar DAS Fest, außer Ostern für alle – Urbi et Orbi(t).

    Ich wünsche Euch allen WAS,

    Josef

  17. Magnus Wolf Goller says:

    @ Josef

    Du liest gar nicht mehr hin, hörst nicht richtig zu; Du unterscheidest eine Redewendung, jene mit dem Teufel, der da reitet, zB, die allerdings bei Dir schon eine Art traurig-realen Bezug hat, nicht mehr vom Tatsächlichen, vom eigentlich Gesagten.

    Und: Nein, ich werde mich nicht von allen Menschen abwenden, die sich Christen heißen oder für die Jesus ein Vorbild. Sozusagen, um konsequent zu sein.

    Ich käme auch nie darauf, zB, das ganze iranische Volk zu verachten, weil dort fast alle Moslems sind. So ein Quark.

    Du benimmst Dich wie ein Kind, dem man das Spielzeug weggenommen hat.

    Gemäß dem klassischen Prinzip: Die Renegaten sind oft die ärgsten Eiferer.

    Die einen haben mit dem Rauchen aufgehört, die anderen essen kein Fleisch mehr, wieder andere lagen mal vor Christus auf den Knien.

    Ich bete definitiv nicht die Sonne an; ich freue mich ihrer nur, so wie auch des Mondes, der Sterne, aller schönen Dinge. Und wenn es auch “nur” ein herrlich anzuschauendes Stück Brot ist.

    Eher tue ich das zuwenig, denn zuviel.

    Es gibt allerdings auch Sachen, die andere lieben, ich aber nicht mag. Zum Beispiel Quark und Kürbismatschsuppe. Zerkochte gelbe Rüben. Miesen, halbtockenen Kerner oder Bacchus. Beschissene Filterzigaretten. Wöchentliche Gänge zum Arzt.

    Deine Philologie inzwischen auch. Denn sie ist eine Scheinphilologie geworden.

    Stil- und Ausdruckskritik ist eins; etwas anderes aber ist's, wenn einer das Gesagte gar nicht mehr sehen will; die inneren Widersprüche in Deiner obigen Rede will ich gar nicht mehr aufzählen.

    Was Du bringst, ja, nehmen wir einen biblischen Begriff dafür, das ist Tohuwabohu. Noch nicht einmal mehr nur Chaos.

    Freude gleich Licht gleich Sonne gleich der Leibhaftige.

    Der Dude war zwischenzeitlich auch mal ziemlich verzweifelt.

    He has indeed dessenthalben but probably something hypersensitive (I also have not once), but not the same as all other besatzt portrayed by the devil.

    Thomas and I, Lisa and I are by no means always agree on everything.

    My little side lives, since there are serious commentators here, very much of popularity and criticism.

    I try as best I can to be thankful for both.

    I try as best I can and it allows my day, always take a stand, pondering, so good I get it in the often short time.

    I censor, I repeat, only what appears to me to be legally questionable. I firstly not want to land because of some Driebels himself in court or negligently damaging the whole publishing my colleagues.

    Solltest Du aus Deiner Sophisterei, Deinem starrsinnigen Obskurantentume, nicht herausfinden, so werde ich alles von Dir, solange es gegen diese Kriterien nicht verstößt, weiterhin hier freischalten, aber nicht mehr antworten.

    Das ist keine Drohung, sondern wird irgendwann zur notwendigen Konsequenz.

    Ich habe nämlich keinen Bock darauf, mich verschwendend vor aller Welt dauerhaft zum Affen zu machen.

    Mögen Dir dann andere antworten, die noch Lust dazu haben.

    Bei mir ist es diesbezüglich jetzt zwei Minuten vor Zacken ab.

  18. Dude sagt:

    Lieber Josef

    Magnus sagt es recht:
    “Der Dude war zwischenzeitlich auch mal ziemlich verzweifelt.”

    Nur hätte er das im präsens fomulieren können und das “zwischenzeitlich” streichen.

    Daher bin ich moment auch nicht mehr wirklich fähig, gescheite Texte zu formulieren.

    Ich bin ein kümmerlicher Schatten meiner Selbst geworden, weil ich den ganzen Irrsinn hier im Sanatorium des Kosmos um mich herum kaum mehr ertrage…

    Aber ganz ehrlich, ich schätze Dich nachwievor sehr, und würde mich sehr freuen, wenn wir mal ein Palaver Aug in Aug führen könnten, wieauchimmer, wannauchimmer, woauchimmer.

    Best regards

  19. Dude sagt:

    Ps@Josef

    Hitze allein ist genauso verheerend, wie Flüssigkeit allein.
    Ersteres entspricht dem männlichen Schöpferaspekt: Licht
    Letzteres dem weiblichen: Liebe

    In Symbiose sind sie perfekt.

    Was glaubst Du weshalb die Erde in der richtigen Entfernung zur Sonne ist, und genug Wasser hat?

    Toller Zufall der sogenannten Evolution. *rofl* ;-)

    Schade nur, dass der Virus Mensch in seiner Bösartigkeit, oder einfach selbstgefälligen Ignoranz und Trägheit alles ausbeutet und zerstört, solange es nicht sein eigenens kleines gut gehegtes und gepflegtes Gärtli ist…

  20. Thomas says:

    Dude, das mit dem Virus und der Ausbeutung lasse ich mal so stehen, um dieses riesige Fass hier nicht aufmachen zu müssen. Aber dieses Thema kannst du dir schonmal für den Januar vormerken. Das lasse ich so nicht ganz gelten. Auch das Evolutionsthema kommt auf die Liste. ;)

  21. Dude says:

    @ Thomas

    Ja, ich weiss, dass schon eine ganze Menge Themenkomplexe auf der Traktandenliste stehn. ;-)

    Ob die ca. 14 Stunden dafür reichen werden?

    We will see. :-)

    Best regards

  22. Dude sagt:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-kn5bFWpSA&feature=player_detailpage#t=452s

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