Currently they lie on the topic of circumcision of boys practically all. I can hardly get it past. All stupid lies that you could not hear the last few days to work through, in the sense that I quoted here and commented, I want you now, especially before monday 12 clock where the "Eckpapier" expires -Stellungnahmsfrist the Ministry of Justice, nor do like me.
One point I have to now take up again: What's with the penis sucking practice of Jewish circumciser, the Mohelim?
If the clear legalized in the name of the people in the future, bleeding, of freshly trimmed and torn Knabenpimmelchen, thereby possibly herpes, I know what, broadcasting, may ablutschen, in an unprecedented record not only of cruelty, but also of sexual and psychopathic perversion?
Or should "only" somehow exempted from punishment to be tolerated? (What makes no difference in the result.)
Practically nobody dares to address the real, which is why it probably unzensiert.zeitgeist-online.de me, is the responsibility to do that.
Put yourself in times the child.
Not only that it mutilated in a horrible procedure on his genitals; it also grows still, if it learns that it was Jewish-traditionally circumcised, in the awareness on that some old geezer has already sucked him at the age of eight days the penis. Above all relatives, on behalf of the religious community, in terms of child welfare.
And the society in which they are growing up, knew this, and let it be.
That it, too intent to cause grievous bodily injury (§ 226 StGB), was therefore also exposed to a serious sexual assault, and no objection raised a hand. And at least every Beiwohnenden the immediate, severe failure to render assistance were guilty. And the rest, who, to this practice knowing, not loudly protested at least, what's with that?
Should not everyone, when there are no police available, even if he only knew where something is happening, is recognized afford immediate relief, and whether, having to protect a defenseless child, with the necessary physical violence?
We look here in deepest human abysses.
What must be sunk in a Mohelhirn that the owner holds for admissible, even for harmless?
Who wants such an even shake hands?
One who might licked hundreds of bleeding Säuglingspenisse while the child is still horrible screaming in pain?
For me, those people are heavy criminals.
If anyone wants to bring me whether this speech in court, he should do that.
Then will have to be negotiated, if at least you can say that in this country, what can be done hardly reasonable inference.
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For Jews, circumcision is mandatory, as it is Prescribed in the Torah:
In the Book of Genesis as a mark of the Covenant in between God and the descendants of Abraham: "Throughout all generations, every male be circumcised Shall When he is eight days old ... This Shall be my covenant in your flesh, to eternal covenant. The uncircumcised male Whose foreskin hasnt been circumcised, Shall have his soul cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant "[3] and
In Leviticus: "God spoke to Moses, telling him to speak to the Israelites. When a woman conceives and gives birth to a boy ... on the eighth day, the flesh of his foreskin Shall be circumcised" [4]
Under Jewish law, a mohel must draw blood from the circumcision wound. Most mohel do it by hand with a suction device, but some Orthodox groups use Their mouth to draw blood after cutting the foreskin. [5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel
So there is a contract with a God who commanded the Beschnedung. Why not for a God who makes the soul firmly on the foreskin? He urges victims and all victims are disgusting ...
@ Lisa
It is remarkable how little, if any, in our otherwise often überpsychologisierten time, discussed what this ritual means not just the physical but also the mental plane.
God gives his chosen male children an organ of the sex part, on his behalf that it, to be faithful expressions, will cut away in a gruesome acts.
What lowers something into the souls?
What Supreme is painted as a picture of the saints?
Where should remain as compassion, if you already mistreated God for his own male infants so?
How will the deal later with women?
Again with their children?
As there is a free spirit grow?
How, god's sake, unlike any other, you will be made because, in general, feel?
If God is already a horrid pervert, where then are still the boundaries towards people?
If absolute brutality set in the beginning, then what is it?
What a thinking, feeling, since bred specifically?
A chosen thinking and feeling?
Who chose it? A nondescript!
So he is, he calls himself, and he has good reasons.
But to me he can not get away.
And I speak his name from: child molester!
And I go even further, the very consequential: The follow him, are, as his slaves, are even child molesters!
What do you think?
In the beginning was the Word, it says.
But it also stands at the end of many.
This monster I refer the earth.
His followers will learn.
Anyone can learn.
@ All
Yes, this is a culture war, and even this word takes much too short.
It is a fight for all children.
After all, since even the children who are not circumcised, and - with all due respect - get followed by a perverted old sack her Pimmelchen licked be damaged by, something permitted in the country in which they live, as permitted, at least unpunished explains.
"How? This is in the country where I grow up? "
"As my father says to me that the DAS should make a stop if they wanted it?"
"How, my mother, my father, who always tell me that they should not hurt, except when it does not was no other way, or to save himself another, tell me that the religious were shut, the one fact to torture and maim, to tolerate, at least have to keep his mouth shut to children? "
"What want because I still tell them what decency, what cowardice, what courage, what was taking responsibility for the others!" -?
"Liar assholes they are, Speiechellecker, my parents!"
"Small, cowardly, scabby, mendacious, greedy-for-nothings!"
"Which I do not believe a word."
"If God is a horrid pervert already, then where are the boundaries even towards people?"
This is not God! The monotheistic Psychos only say it to God in order to disguise the visage of the devil with it!
The devil is in the pure white dress Bösmülligkeit, and he loves the mohel! They provide plenty of energy to it ...
Child molester fits well in any case, said actually is almost too cute ...
Ps.Magnus
I have incidentally allowed, sometimes exceptionally quote again an extract of your main article in MF, of course garnished with Link.
@ Dude
You, but for now only you, I grant, until further notice, the Swiss Mystical Forum, and initially only there, like a well detailed, above and beyond the normal quote is where considered by you as sensible, even full direct playback of my texts, if my author name correctly specified and a correct link is to put on my site.
Thank you! However, I will continue mainly because the links would see, but here I could not resist ...
But I will be careful not to take all the items there - as they are to read kindly here, yes, ideally, regular readers should be:-D - because if I do, I do just that and the lazy (the laziest and Konditioniertesten read / do not click anything at first, and will probably have already confronted me on the ignore list ^^) with the most essential right.
Best regards
@ Magnus Wolf Goeller
Methinks I hitzigeren your far, far more about Read more passionate articles against abortion. Or is the prenatal infanticide in your eyes much more enjoyable than the postnatal cutting a fold of skin on the penis?
"As there is a free spirit grow up?"
Religious institutions have the purpose to prevent the "free spirit". They serve solely the dumbing down, oppression and enslavement. Specifically, the image of God in the Old Testament is cruel, vindictive, judgmental and punitive. "An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth. "No wonder the faithful to emulate, mutilate their children, kill people senseless, torture animals and even desecrate the whole creation the.
Religion in this sense is not only "Opium" but the pure poison!
Because of personal experiences with people who have shamelessly pulled me across the table, permanently being lying, while sounding as honest as possible, I've been looking for the cause and found this. Some search the Internet for the keyword sociopathy.
There is the description of the behavior of this type of species. Of this same species, we are all governed. There are people without any feeling of compassion. Such are the only recognition from.
Although this behavior has clinical significance, but is not curable, even punishments do not deter. But by just such conduct only those types come up, whether in the company or in the government, most of them are to be found in religious compounds. And there was always. Who created the definition of their God. And the honest stupid people believe them. Sure, the lie so skillfully that one only needs some time to figure it out.
And that these religious Verreine be unterstüztz by governments, not surprisingly. If it but there are also only sociopaths.
Information should therefore depend on these sick behaviors, and how to recognize them early.
@ The Steffen
I am also against abortion. But that's another story. And these will I a, the only to provoke the foreskin cynical or stupid, or both, or, as "fold of skin on the penis" means, do not tell here.
And, dear Steffen: The trick with the abortion is tried for weeks everywhere in comment strings to be circumcised, and he fails even there regularly, where probably less intelligent people are traveling on average, than here.
Can indeed times guess why; I will not discuss in this strand about abortion.
@ Dude
How far are you with working through the Book of Revelation?
"That's not God! The monotheistic Psychos only say it to God in order to disguise the visage of the devil with it! "
The devil in person, there is just as little as this tribal god Yahweh of the Jews in person. For the same reason there are no chosen people.
This is in comparison with something like this, as in the Adolf himself and everyone else in him saw the leader and as a leader needs (un) naturally also a chosen people. But that was with us last in the pants and the Jews is no different. Jerusalem was razed, the temple where there whose leader has lived in the spirit in the dark of the ark, which was destroyed.
The Germans were taught that they need to get loose them something special to be as a people. So most of us were even a nation retracted tail of yes-men. Good education is everything.
But the Jews just do not want to learn to understand that they are nothing special. So they created in the spirit yet another second world. In this they are the chosen people forever. And šílencům no herb is known to be grown. To get licked by a mohel modesty and the penis at the age of eight days, but that has been something of a select (Un) Natural. Clear actually that these people will not want to come down from their trip.
What the Creator relates Dude, I do not quite agree with you. Your Trinitätsvorstellung in this regard in my opinion takes the Creator Spirit, the unlimited nature.
"The devil is in the pure white dress Bösmülligkeit, and he loves the mohel! They provide plenty of energy to it ... "
That with the devil in the white dress reminds me of this verse.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Paul I do not think much, because he has sent many people on a completely wrong track. Even today, many are waiting again on the announcement of his rapture was still alive in the sky. Nonsense three!
The Paul, incidentally, was also circumcised, but spoke out against circumcision and let other crop but because he was afraid of the Jews. See here:
Acts 16: 3 Paul wanted this go forth with him. And he took him and had him circumcised because of the Jews who were in those places; for they all knew that his father was a Greek.
Probably the people had always used everywhere to show their penises in the Jewish country, so as an official document of godliness.
If soon the whole world will be under the bushel of the chosen people, the Muslims have the Jewish custom of circumcision indeed already connected voluntarily, then it is hot even with us: cock !; and woe since then is off too much skin.
@ Lisa
"No wonder that believers emulate, mutilate their children, kill people senseless, torture animals and even desecrate the whole creation."
You speak of the faithful. On the other hand, you believe yourself to creation, behind which then logically also a creator and if this is just a ghost, must be.
So you share the faith in the world in at least two camps. In those believers who believe in God and some running up wrong in those believers who would not even exist without its creator. Actually So you cling from the atheists from the outset. For where creation has happened, there may be no atheists.
What we have to do it in truth in the whole, is a great religious war. At the front of circumcision will show who this again loses a battle. If those considering themselves the true creative spirit (or are atheists, I smile here) lose this battle, then they should be looking better soon a new world to live in. We want it really can go so far?
@ Dude
It is of course in the whole ritual also about drawing energy.
At this level it is pure black magic.
However, most people believe in all sorts of crap, but are not aware that they actually are, and not just the crazy attempt but also the desired effect.
We had it here so recently by Crowley.
You mean that you are the Liber Al et al. rather not even ansähe, at least the normal man.
There I went already to ensure that those who can afford it, is this kind should look just right exactly where you finally zustimmtest.
Also here is what you call satanic, to consider my view down into the deepest abyss. And at the bottom you should again tap the rock and dig if necessary, whether because not yet located a hidden cave system underneath.
Forewarned, forearmed.
(Quite that simple, of course not; the saying refers to the effect misleading, only a necessary - not even always necessary - condition, but by no means sufficient.)
haschmech
"You speak of the faithful. On the other hand, you believe yourself to creation, behind which then logically also a creator and if this is just a ghost, must be. "
Yes, I was not accurate. I spoke of the "foreign believers" who take any faith, the other pennant them. I also need a single Creator, for God is All That Is, so to speak. So I am the creator of my world. You are the creator of your world, etc.
There are always religious wars, no matter whether they are called religious or secular. Would, therefore, I think, in a society acceptance evolvierteren the first commandment. Everyone does their own thing and if you do not like what the other is doing, so it is not necessary to condemn it, but you just go on his way. The responsibility for what happened one, lies not in others, but only in yourself. That is why it is so necessary to control your own thoughts so as not to attract unwanted things due to carelessness.
I know I do!
(Unfortunately not even the full extent of all beliefs)
@ Lisa
"Why would I believe in a society evolvierteren acceptance of the first bid. Everyone does their own thing and if you do not like what the other is doing, so it is not necessary to condemn it, but you just go on his way. The responsibility for what happened one, lies not in others, but only in himself. "
Should I accept, sit and watch, if one considers the other to kill for his religious commandment, or to mutilate defenseless children, because just go my way?
And: Is the responsibility of what happened one, really not in others?
Want to get that one towards you is so indifferent?
Have no responsibility for anyone?
I must at least once after my kids watch, so have a doubt.
Want to get that one towards you is so indifferent? "
Yes, I want that you are right-gülitg to me and I do that all the others are indifferent.
The call to battle is very seductive and I succumb to it from time to time. This resistance, conviction, or fighting is a dramatic reinforcement of what you do not want. It binds. There are even people who live only by rejection and resistance. Since kannn you realize how uncomfortable this frequency.
The more elegant solution would be to turn away, let the undesirable practices as it were going nowhere. And of course education, but not as a condemnation, but as awareness. Nonstop what you are doing so. Maybe it makes then eventually "click" and it is understood as suddenly understand the most, that circumcision is a simple assault.
For example Netanyahoo has in his speech at the UN, the drawing of a bomb unsheathed to demonstrate how far Iran can investigate. He has then drawn this red line. If that is not extremely ridiculous and this ridicule have to many people show. The drawing is actually stolen from a Tom & Jerry cartoon.
Of course you want to take care of his children because you love them and because you want to, that they are doing well. But responsibility is not, because everyone can only answer for yourself. But you can get closer to the children of this knowledge. This in no way diminishes the love. On the contrary.
@ Magnus Wolf Göller
So that way. “Zynisch oder dumm oder beides” ist es also, wenn ich die Vorhaut als “Hautfalte am Penis” bezeichne? Dann strotzt vermutlich auch der Wikipedia-Artikel zur Vorhaut von Zynismus und Dummheit. Ich bin so frei, den für Dich sicher unerträglichen dritten Satz daraus zu zitieren:
“Die Vorhaut ist eine Reservefalte für die Verlängerung des Penis bei der Erektion.”
Vielleicht magst Du ja kurz darlegen, was die Vorhaut aus Deiner Sicht ist, wenn man sie aus der religiösen resp. antireligiösen Überhöhung zurück auf den Boden der anatomischen Tatsachen holt?
Traurig ist es, mit welcher Selbstverständlichkeit Du es als “Trick” abtust, wenn Dir jemand die groteske Unverhältnismäßigkeit Deiner künstlichen Aufregung unter die Nase hält. Doch bis vor ein paar Tagen hätte ich ja auch geglaubt, dass es unter Deiner Würde sei, eine uralte Methode der Wunddesinfektion zu einem sexuellen Akt zu stilisieren und diese Deine Perversion als etwas zu deklarieren, “was nur schwerlich vernünftig in Abrede getan werden kann.”
@ Der Steffen
Wie Du Deine vorhandene oder abgeschnittene Vorhaut für Dich ansiehst, wohin Du sie gedanklich weglutscht, (ich gehe mal davon aus, dass Dir mindestens 18 Lenze geschenkt) ist Deine Sache.
Du darfst Dir jene “Reservefalte” desfalls auch gerne öffentlich abschneiden lassen, solltest Du Deine von Dir so genannte Reservefalte zu diesem oder sonst einem Behufe noch dranhaben.
Mach doch.
Ich aber werde zum Zuschauen, selbst wenn Du mich freundlichst einlädst, nicht kommen.
Schaue Deiner dann, gerne, an, wer das sehen will.
Vielleicht erkennst Du Dich dann in denen.
Viel Spaß dabei.
Lisa
Thank you! I am with u ... ... that's the core ...
@ Lisa
Yes, I am an evil Wortpfitzler (yes may otherwise almost nothing).
You write:
"Of course you want to take care of his children because you love them and because you want to, that they are doing well. But responsibility is not, because everyone can only answer for yourself. But you can get closer to the children of this knowledge. This in no way diminishes the love. On the contrary. "
I must constantly respond to my children and take responsibility for them: What are you talking about?
That is a theoretical space, without reference to reality, because the You craft. Again (not you again, but it accumulates in the comments just) a verbiage to Sakrifikation an alleged or Demanded, as an alternative channel to reality.
In an ideal world, of course, brings the child out of himself to the world, flexes with a divine flex his umbilical cord, then suckles to learn from himself speaking, then reading and writing, and it is also a genius, so as all others.
No, dear Lisa, so not funzt.
I am here just whether two other texts and strands (never mind, I'm used to) a bit of evil, you do not share my sense of humor everywhere, takes me for a intransigent, arrogant half idiot, a selfish cynic who only makes his ears, what he does not want it, but here I annoy my sake even you.
@ Lisa
"So I am the creator of my world. You are the creator of your world, etc. "
Then I would have me yes our blue planet and everything else themselves have made. My God, it's been so never pushed me into consciousness.
"I also need a single Creator, for God is All That Is, so to speak."
According to your statement above, so all are what you need and everything you're only you?
With so little to me always talking about Logie phenomenon coincides with bomb number 20 in the feature film "Dark Star" a ...
@ haschmech
“Dann müsste ich mir ja unseren blauen Planeten und auch alles weitere selbst gemacht haben. Mein Gott, das ist mir so noch nie ins Bewusstsein gedrückt worden.”
Yes, it is. Schön, nicht wahr!
“Nach Deiner Aussage weiter oben, bist also alles was Du brauchst und alles was Du bist nur Du selbst?”
Yes, it is. Es ist sehr wünschenswert, nichts zu “brauchen”.
Und – Das Eine ist Alles und Alles ist Eins.
Ich habe festgestellt, dass immer dann, wenn es um die Größe des Menschen geht, als um die Größe seiner selbst, ein schneller Rückzieher gemacht wird. Dann hält sich so mancher “Freigest” schnell wieder am Rockzipfel irgendeines Gottes fest.
“Ich muss ständig für meine Kinder antworten und sie verantworten: Was redest Du da?”
Ja, das ist das Spiel, das wir alle spielen. Aber vielleicht sollte man sich irgendwann mit dem Gedanken anfreunden, dass die lieben Kinderlein so alte Seelen sind wie man selbst und wahrscheinlich (noch) besser wissen, warum sie hier sind. Die Eltern sind ihr Mittel. Das haben sie sich total eigenverantwortlich ausgedacht…. -)
@ Dude
I think it would be a shame if you went. The Magnus is still a seeker, which is also repeatedly plagued by various demons of doubt. And also there in the esoteric scene too much ridiculous that you should calmly address. I think in any case that he is a very good sparring partner.
@ Lisa
I have you out already.
@ Lisa
"Yes, it is. Beautiful, is not it! "
It may be nice for you, but as for me, so I'm not ready to believe that. And my statement you're referring to, it should be you not noticed that was meant ironically by me.
"And - The One is All and All is One."
As the saying goes? - Datt ös Nitt ming thing.
@ Magnus
"I must at least once after my kids watch, so have a doubt."
What are you and why this set of you heard earlier you said in the strand to Lisa that I liked. It clearly shows the spirit in you, I like about you.
You make yourself not only to your children but also the children complete stranger people from all other nations. You could indeed say: What God damned with their children do, that's me shooting. But you do not.
Accordingly, you act for another, higher principle for you, as like those of us classified as child molesters. Since you have a higher spirit than yours, which I dub as you know with Creator dislike, it just surprises me a little that you but whose highest principle of charity (Tue anyone slightly, from which you do not want it done to you will) so strictly obey. Boundaries we have to get a when now to the child's welfare is generally.
Our state holds up a high principle that for (us) all will apply and in Article 1, for each GG is nachlesbar. But we also know that in our state power reigning over all and so may those who hold this power, also merge their highest principle by other laws, if they think this is appropriate and necessary.
What comes out, we will soon be able to see beautiful again when the mohel will get their permission to sucking our billgen law.
Action against it your weapon peaceful, is your word that you have mastered so well. As for the child molestation by circumcision, You preach publicly really nothing more than the charity.
What it is strange, did just that sometimes a certain Jesus, whom you dislike and where also I still doubt, because I just can not deal with his identity and because it is written about him, that he should have said himself, he would the bright morning star. The title that also claimed the prince of this world, Lucifer (Satan) with regard to himself, and this is probably the only reason makes to lead people astray.
If you now completely reject a Creator God, but why do you let yourself be guided by the highest principle?
Since only the people know that enact laws that would have to compare in the animal world but prevail pure chaos. If it does maybe? One can it fall on the other and it is true unfortunately, has just been unlucky then. This seems to me the life motto of Lisa to be here.
Bites in the animal world a predator a deer from the foot and it can not escape anyway, then it should just come without his foot rest of his life still cope. The culprit is neither sought, nor will he be held accountable by other animals. There is the right of the stronger.
As for the state power, so they have actually held only this law of the jungle and these people are doing just as if them the dignity of their subjects and the dignity of all people, regardless of their origin and what age, who live in our country would, very close to your heart.
For example, if the mohel get their sucking authorizations, and to commit permission, assault on innocent young children, then I really do not know whether I live among animals or whether I, as far as the laws Erlasser and the followers of these laws, even with people have to do. I personally doubt already long in mind that our so-called law enforcement (still) are real people (I'm thinking also of the so-called conscription law, which still exist in our constitution and what does with what charity is incompatible. )
A'm tolerant because religious and friendly to foreigners child abuse permissive law in matters of circumcision, and I am also thinking of the Muslims is, as I understood you, with our highest principle incompatible.
So has in us and in all who think and feel but live another spirit, which is different from the spirit that dwells in those who can make the state power and therefore power, as well as traditional religious rites on the child's welfare, because after their view is acceptable that a little foreskin of male infants compared only is such a thing as a abgebissener feet of a deer, which is sometimes just come in contact with a predator.
The unquestioned child and all who care about the welfare of the child is thinking, thus said: Have you not so, for though our law it is not quite to your liking, so it still applies to all, simply because only a the violence may have held about everything.
If a predator could talk, it would certainly be similar from him. From what or whom we so let's rule according to the law? I would say the animal in man, which only pretends it would be good.
Yes just look, we are all naked and yet there are also a few Attracted among us. Their dress is the power over us, because we have to obey them, because they have determined it so.
Jesus obeyed his inner spirit and whose sole commandment of charity. And otherwise try and you Magnus. But how should one arrive to those who take the right bite off another leg and then say: This is our order.
That their order is rather a mess, does not see these people. It will finally light!
@ Haschmech
You will always be better. This is great. You've probably also the learning addiction.
To your questions because of my rejection of a creator: In https://unzensiert.zeitgeist-online.de/2012/09/28/die-satire-schuf-gott-und-der-aus-dem-nichts-den-rest/ habe I lot, although packed satirical, very serious to say.
Also in https://unzensiert.zeitgeist-online.de/2012/09/29/von-der-gottsucht-und-der-geldsucht/ sowie https://unzensiert.zeitgeist-online.de/2012/09/29/vom-es-dem-wie-und-dem-was/ .
And I say now, here's what you do not ask in doubt that I see in fact inspired me from a higher spiritual principle.
But not only inspired, but essentially erseelt.
Reason of all that I now "think" is not only the rare privilege to have been conceived and raised by highly educated and education conscious parents, but it just stuck even thousands of hours of hard labor behind it.
I do not believe in it (yes, I'm in disbelief strengthened), that spirit which may be higher, simply requested Mental, simply summon itself.
Although there may come times something that is so called, pretty to look at, it is even happy that it finally arrived; it is then only a mirage, or, even worse yet, a strange, not benevolent power.
A benevolent power is when she says because of wanting to help a, a good, hard, so strict as mild teachers; it is the student who asks for lessons, not to pretend that he was already a master, if he does not even learned to keep a straight edge straight ahead.
I see great developments. Erst gestern Nacht unterhielt ich mich mit einem (nach einem Riesenarschloch), der zu einem bestimmten Thema, das ich regelmäßig aufbringe, bislang aber kaum einer (Infoliner ist so einer, der's doch tut) ernst nimmt, zwar nicht in meiner Weise (von meiner Weise her: Er hat nur einen anderen Hintergrund) längst begriffen hat, was ich sage, dem ich, verwundert, nur Eulenscharen nach Athene trug. (Naja, fast nur. Manches mag ihm doch noch neu gewesen sein.)
Es scheint manchmal duster. Trotzdem sehe ich an vielen Stellen Licht hereingelassen und geholt.
@Lisa
Ich bleibe noch, werde allerdings in nächster Zeit wohl nicht mehr allzu viel kommentieren.
Und was den Dünnpfiff aus der Esoterik/New-Age-Szene betrifft, ist mir durchaus bewusst, dass da viel gefährliches Ideologiegut gestreut wird.
Ich habe in folgendem Strang schon ausführlich darüber geschrieben: https://unzensiert.zeitgeist-online.de/2012/04/26/matrix-zericht/comment-page-1/#comment-27127 & ff.
@Haschmech
"One can it fall on the other and it is true unfortunately, has just been unlucky then. This seems to me the life motto of Lisa to sein.- here "
Yes yes, the charity! Schau mal, wie locker Du mich mit Deiner ganzen Nächstenliebe in die Pfanne haust. Aber das ist nicht weiter verwunderlich, denn Liebe ist wohl der am Schwersten zu erlangende Zustand in dieser Welt. Die Erleuchtung (oder Erseelung, wie Magnus weiter oben schrieb) ist ein bewusster Akt der Einsicht und ohne diesen bewusstenn Akt, Selbsterkenntnis, ist Liebe nicht möglich.
Ich habe den Eindruck, dass es daran bei den Nächstenliebenden etwas hapert. Diese Nächstenliebe, oder wie es gerne heißt: STO – Service to others, oder gerne wird auch “Wir” verwendet, dient oft genug als Rechtfertigung, andere zu kontrollieren.
Also, aus dieser Erhellung folgt die Liebe zu sich selbst in der Einsicht, dass man wirklich ein universelles (oder göttliches) Wesen ist. Aus der Einsicht kommt auch das Wissen um die Verbundenheit mit Allem. So ist die “Nächstenliebe” und die Liebe zu allem was kreucht und fleucht eine natürliche Folge der Einsicht.
In dieser Reihenfolge wird das Pferd von vorne aufgezäumt!
Das könnte ein “Gebet” sein, das Jesus gesprochen hat…
Ich bin ein geliebter Sohn (eine geliebe Tochter) des Universums
und das Universum neigt sich mir zu!
@ Lisa
“Ich habe den Eindruck, dass es daran bei den Nächstenliebenden etwas hapert.”
Wo habe ich denn zu Dir gesagt, dass ich zu den Nächstenliebenden gehöre?
Sich mit etwas intensiv zu beschäftigen, bedeutet noch lange nicht auch ein Teil davon zu sein. Ich habe mich zB in letzter Zeit viel mit der Bibel beschäftigt und die Bibel ist insgesamt gesehen, das A und O des Judentums. Ich habe mich aber immer noch nicht beschneiden lassen, weder am Fleische noch im Geiste und habe es auch für die Zukunft nicht vor. Auch wenn es zwischenzeitlich mal so ausgesehen haben könnte, als hätte ich das mit mir machen lassen. Dazu bin ich, wie Magnus freundlicherweise aufgefallen ist und oben bemerkt hat, viel zu lernsüchtig.
Ich habe hier im Blog schon kundgetan, dass ich kein Christ mehr bin. Wenn ich denen angehören würde, dann gehörte ich ja auch einer Religion an. Das hieße ja, ich würde mich selbst eingrenzen.
Wenn Du Dich wegen etwas Ironie meinerseits in die Pfanne geschlagen fühlst, dann könnte es eher so sein, dass Du hier auf dieser Seite falsch bist. Auf meinem Blog dann sowieso. Ich habe übrigens weitere eigene Artikel in Vorbereitung.
“Das könnte ein “Gebet” sein, das Jesus gesprochen hat…
Ich bin ein geliebter Sohn (eine geliebe Tochter) des Universums
und das Universum neigt sich mir zu!”
Wie soll sich das Universum Jesus zuneigen können, wo Er sich doch selbst als das A und O erklärt?
Jesus sagt: Er wäre im Vater, der Vater wäre in ihm und seine Nachfolger wären in ihm (Jesus). Alleine schon wegen seiner verzwickten und verdammt guten Reden mag ich diesen Mann. Denn Jesus lässt einem anderen noch Raum fürs eigene Denken und Lernen. Genau das aber hat mit Religion nichts gemein. Und wer so gemein ist, bei dem hapert es hin und wieder auch etwas bei der Nächstenliebe.
Jesus aber zu einer in Klammern gesetzten geliebten Tochter des Universums zu erklären, also zu einem Teilweibe machen zu wollen und ihm damit den Rang dessen wegnehmen zu wollen, der ihm im Universum als Mann natürlicherweise rechtmäßig zusteht, das wiederum finde ich von Dir schon etwas gemein. Aber ich lasse es Dir durchgehen, denn Du bist ja was das Universum angeht, noch jung, um nicht zu sagen New-Age.
Lieben Gruß an alle hier vom
haschmech
@ Magnus Wolf Göller
Zu Deinem Kommentar vom 29. September 2012 um 01:12 ( http://goo.gl/XAZWd ).
Möglicherweise ist es Dir entgangen: Ich sprach mich nicht für Beschneidung aus. Ich sprach mich vielmehr gegen Deine Unverhältnismäßigkeit und Unseriosität beim hiesigen Thema aus. Warum zerhackstückelst Du mit solch geistlosen Erwiderungen Deine Glaubwürdigkeit?
Ist es das wert?
Um einer inhaltlichen Auseinandersetzung mit meiner Kritik auszuweichen?
Um von jenem (buch-)religionsfeindlichen Eifer abzulenken, an dem Deine Meinung vertäut ist?
Um “Recht” zu behalten? Oder das letzte Wort?
Wo bleibt die Weisheit, wo das Augenmaß?
@ Der Steffen
Wenn ich Deiner Meinug nach meine Glaubwürdigkeit zerhackstückele: Ich bin volljährig und darf das in meiner eigenen Verantwortung.
Ich amputiere aber keinen wehrlosen Kindern qualvoll einen wesentlichen Teil ihres Sexualorgans – ob aufgrund eines (buch)-religiösen Eifers oder aus sonst einem nicht medizinisch klar indizierten Gunde – und bin strikt dagegen, dass das in diesem Lande erlaubt wird.
Im übrigen denke ich, dass Du von dem, was Du hier und anderwo last und liest, entweder ziemlich derangiert bist oder lediglich provozieren willst.
Ich wundere mich auch, weshalb Du meinst, Dir Sorgen ausgerechnet um meine Glaubwürdigkeit machen zu müssen.
Zur Zeit haben ganz andere Leute Probleme, und zwar nicht nur mit ihrer längst verlorenen Glaubwürdigkeit.
Lies mal das Grundgesetz sowie den Paragraphen 226 StGB.
Vielleicht sortiert Dich das ein wenig.
(Kannst ja einfach mal einen Erwachsenen, damit es nicht so weh tut und er nicht angeschnallt werden muss und schreit wie am Spieß, ungefragt mit Chloralhydrat flachlegen, indem Du ihm was in den Drink tust, ihm dann sehr sauber und fachgerecht jene kleine Hautfalte, wie Du das nennst, wegschneiden, ihn danach gut verbinden und nach dem Aufwachen ein wenig trösten. Ich schätze mal, dass das, wenn Du es zum ersten Mal gemacht hast und nicht vorbestraft bist, 5 Jahre Knast setzt. Könnte aber auch sein, dass man Dich gleich auf unbestimmte Zeit in die Klapse steckt.)
“Weisheit”, “Augenmaß”: Mit diesen Begriffen willst Du mich wohl verhohnepiepeln.
(Ach ja, ich vergaß: In der Verhandlung käme raus, dass Du ihm direkt nach dem Eingriff den blutenden Pimmel abgelutscht hast. Meinst Du, dass das das Strafmaß senkte, zur Anerkennung mildernder Umstände führte?)
@ Der Steffen
Ich will es mal – obschon ich mehr als bezweifeln muss, dass Du es mit Kindern gut meinst – gut mit Dir meinen und Dir noch ein wenig erklären, was eigentlich schon längst klar sein müsste.
Es geht darum, nicht nur die körperliche Unversehrtheit von Kindern zu schützen, sondern sie zudem vor einem gezielten Traumatisierungsritual zu bewahren.
Und wenn Buchreligiöse dahinter stehen, in der Regel selbst in der entsprechenden Weise Traumatisierte, so wäre das in der Tat ein guter Grund, mal deren Bücher zu hinterfragen.
Die zwei Bücher, die hier infrage stehen (ohne, dass die Beschneidung allerdings im Koran explizit vorgeschrieben wäre), die Thorah und der Koran, sind Bücher voller Aufforderung zu Grausamkeit, Unterdrückung und Unterwerfung, erbärmlich schlechte Bücher.
Ich kann nichts dafür, wenn Leute solchem abgründigem Mist hinterherrennen. Da musst Du Dir andere Schuldige suchen.
Ich habe auch nicht vor, des Kinderschutzes halber Landser gen Israel und Saudi-Arabien ausrücken zu lassen (so, wie man das vorgeblich zumal auch wegen Mädchenrechten gen Afghanistan tat), lediglich in diesem Lande klarzustellen, dass Kinder nicht straffrei am Geschlechtsteil verstümmelt werden dürfen, und zwar Knaben wie Mädchen.
Wer hier nicht mehr leben will, weil das gilt, der kann sich wohl über hundert schönere, bessere Länder heraussuchen, wo es anders ist.
Lies mal, was ich zuletzt zur Sache geschrieben habe, wie man sich nichtmal traute, das “Eckpunktepapier” vollständig an die Öffentlichkeit herauszugeben, meines Wissens bis heute nicht den von Moslems und Juden, jenen, die ihn einsehen durften, weitestgehend gelobten Entwurf des Knabenverstümmelungserlaubnisgesetzes.
Man versucht uns, die Gegner solcher Perversion, hinters Licht zu führen und zuzunebeln.
Das wird nicht gelingen.
(Soviel auch nochmal zur “Glaubwürdigkeit.)
@ Magnus Wolf Göller
Ich übergehe der Stringenz zuliebe Deine zynisch eingeleitete, etwas weitschweifige Selbsterklärung. In Anbetracht meines Kritikpunktes ist sie so unentbehrlich wie ein Kropf. Schließlich habe ich nicht moniert, dass Du ein Gegner der Beschneidung bist.
Du glaubst, ich wolle provozieren? Aber ja, ich wollte Dich provozieren! Zum Nachdenken. Aber ich muss einsehen, wie naiv das war. Du kannst von der exorbitanten Relevanz der Vorhaut, Deinen sexuellen Blutsauger-Fantasien und dem unheilbaren Beschneidungstrauma kaum mehr abrücken, ohne Deinen Standpunkt abzumeißeln. Und das wird umso unerquicklicher, je mehr von der ausgehärteten Kruste Deiner Weltsicht mit daran hängt. Ich meine jenen Schorf, den Du bei anderen abzupulen versuchst.
Zur weiteren Entschuldigung für diese Konversation möchte ich vorbringen: Ich übersah offenbar, dass Dein (inhaltlicher) Selbstanspruch mit dem Niveau der Wohnzimmerteppichkante konkurriert und es Dir nur – pseudointellektuellen Schafsmedien wie dem Spiegel gleich – um programmatische Polemik geht. Daher fühlst Du Dich auch von Begriffen wie Weisheit oder Augenmaß “verhohnepiepelt”. Wohl zu Recht.
Pity!
But no offense. Ich bin dann mal weg.
@ Der Steffen
Gute Reise unter den Wundschorf der Wohnzimmerteppichkante.