The self has to be, does not require a God.
(He who hath his self needeth none God.)
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I think this is wrong.
Without God there is no self.
Since there is nothing.
@ Bookmarks
Your God is your self in reality. And so He is / There / check out everything. Back up, everywhere. (But think and create a bit of himself he makes you even more, because he does not want you just verfaulst.)
(Warne know if I should sound like a Käßmannin. That would be me then but a little embarrassing.)
No, because of thee must and I will write again more than I wanted it. Simply because I love you. (Do not worry, this is not immoral extramarital Overture. You're just one such. Example my friend W., for me the word "estimate" is now too bland. My mom I love so well, without going into her going to want to bed.)
I will now (very exceptionally) a little philosophical.
God is on its way to you. He can not help it.
He must go there. Simply because you are fond of it and even think.
No, wrong.
He's been there long. Only you thinkest him even outside your.
I have nothing against Den, if one understands it correctly, is inserted in white.
You are a wonderful woman. A man. With weaknesses and faults well, as we all. God, as you understand it, but can not help but to be in you. Otherwise he, Schwäbisch would say, a Seckel. He is already there.
And there he is, if you want it, always will be.
It is your center.
Bookmark speaks truly ...
God (the Absolute, the source of all being and life) contains in itself all the gods (the Relative; souls) and all forms of energy (including matter.)!
Since there nothing to discuss. ;-)
God IS allpräsent. The question is always the free will of the Individiuums whether it wants to perceive the omnipresence, or not. The divine love makes that decision open, infinite (not forever).
@ Magnus
"He is your center."
Where exactly should this be our midst?
"Your God is really your own."
If so and you also as the referring for you, then another question:
Can you create something from nothing or from something that is dead, make a living, or canst thou on the other hand on its own your life also added to enforce only a margin if the time has expired on this world for you?
@ Dude
The Absolute, the source, at the same time everything is there?
That where something comes out is also what comes out?
Well, the theologian "Logie" must be the meaning of their statements do not have any particular thoughts. Or, let's say, the paradoxical, the better.
Namely, when something is incomprehensible, one can only believe in it.
However, if God is all original and all beings, so just like in the throat of Fukushima sits like in Lake Titicaca or my toenail dirt, the idiot, which he himself is eager produces, as from time to time and occasionally a considerable scientist, then which although undoubtedly a remarkable achievement and thing, but ultimately irrelevant when one has recognized it once.
Because then you can save the whole complicated Döns yes and simply say: "I believe in everything!"
Why do we but all that is there, and should not believe, and that it probably had to come from somewhere, she will not reveal to me certainly. Or does it matter which everything somehow, when you can not only recognizes that it is there? Will it somehow sick if you do not even believe in it?
Then all this already but would have to be a pretty delicate, sensitive, yes vain creatures.
Well, maybe this is like that.
What matters then so would come out, like most major religions, they also situate yes: God, everything is perfect and the source of all being, only that many unbelievers or the best of all constantly spoil. So that Everything has its hands full with them.
Oh jemara!
Time the other way (I discuss here, so much I want): Could not all this feel rather powerful verhohnepiepelt or misunderstood when people where it is already obvious but there still think we need to believe?
If I imagine that I say to a man, and throws himself first on his knees and begs "Good day!": "I see and hear you not only, I believe you even honestly and sincerely that you as 're "- the most would consider every normal for something stupid!; or else, it beschliche him the suspicion that the wool next ten euros let out of it or otherwise exaggerating a hinterfotziges game. And it was just people's amusement.
Under dash: Well, everything is there, everything is God.
If I accept it that way, I no longer believe in it even more so.
@ Gerd-Peter Wilke
"Out of nowhere produce something (created)" is one of the 36 Chinese stratagems. At least the Chinese so my for well over two thousand years, that it was humanly possible.
Whether I have ever made from something dead living thing, I do not know. But if I - as the Dude says - be a part of God, so it would hardly be ruled out.
If I could someday prolong my life, and am first to go. For if "my time expired" will be, which is, after all, require that I manipulate the time. Einstein said that it will work when you fly fast enough. The many consider the greatest. (I do not. The thing with the speed of light as highest possible has long been refuted.)
Of course it would mean einsteinisch seen that if I just rushed around with at the speed of light, in the strict sense, therefore, not a day would live longer, but compared to the lame earthly rest, where one of my minutes is a year, but relatively flat.
@ Magnus andDude
"Stick Under: Okay, Everything is there, everything is God."
When everything is God, then everything would have to exist in one of good and evil. But why then the constant battle between good and evil, or in other words, why it is in our world people who are upset about it when they see that other evil befalls?
So there are people who are more prone to good and there are people who are more prone to evil. But if everything would be the same God as it then comes to this dichotomy?
A lion knows only the law of hunger. Does he hunger, he kills to survive. Is this what the lion then the other is doing, good or bad?
For a man there is the law of power and submission. Here, the man who adopts the law says, it would be the best. Because without his Gesetzesserlaß, his opinion can not be held back by the evil. The so subjugated man, is for the laws Erlasser a bad man, if he defends himself against the oppression of power. Defends is not answered, then there is a good person. The laws Erlasser, even if he is innately evil, raises himself to the good. It is then the lion is hungry and the man under the law is at the end of that which must be possible to eat for the sake of evil.
What would happen if the so enslaved person would dare speak but once, to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge, though that has been strictly prohibited by the laws Erlasser?
@ Magnus
"" Out of nowhere, a little generate (create) "... is."
etc.
For me it looks as if we're talking past each other fully.
"At least the Chinese so my for well over two thousand years, that it was humanly possible."
I did not ask what the Chinese have to for an opinion. I asked if you are capable, as of to have what God says in its center.
@ Gerd-Peter Wilke
First To Last (the rest later when I have eaten something).
I said nowhere that I myself have God in my center.
I meant that the God who believes in the bookmarks in reality was her middle.
As for me, I have made only theoretical, speculative considerations. Finally, I am in disbelief.
As I said, about my (possible) skills and the "Tree of Knowledge" and the "Gesetzeserlassers" later.
@ Gerd-Peter Wilke
This "law Erlasser" of which you speak is simply a perverted sadist. This is self-explanatory basically.
For "From something create something".
I have at least (again) produced here from a near nothingness something.
A - ostensibly - Vain thought packed into a small, zehnsilbigen saying, and have followed a something.
If you learned it once, you will find the nothingness from which something can be produced, at every turn. The whole world is full of them.
The whole Big Bang anarchists (of which I minden whether the structure of their theory does not hold much) think that the whole world nothing is created from an undefined (that is the essence of nothingness).
Even God who can be so only come out of nowhere (or created the one Vorgott that created by the Vorgott that nothing came out of?), The world supposedly created from the Nichtwas.
Apparently he thought she had to do that. Finally, it was sometime, always alone with nothing (or nots), but boring. Maybe it was him, even though it then (since took the matter when he thought he could make his well-deserved snack break, their negligent operation) even came out those wayward unbelieving figures like I even made fun.
Whether he now regrets that he has since not been paying attention for a while?
Whether he is doing penance for it?
Asks for forgiveness?
I dont know.
I am grateful to him in any case, that he is a slob.
And so generous that he even ranlässt me of the nots.
So: German are not necessarily stupid than Chinese.
@ Magnus
"Apparently he thought she had to do that."
I find it interesting that you imagine God in male form, declare him to an ER, even though you do not believe him.
If I do not want to believe in something, then this is something not there for me and not even the speech is worth.
"This" laws Erlasser "of which you speak is simply a perverted sadist."
I do not agree. But those who then went on their way, although her way intended disagreed with the idea of zuvordersten Gesetzeserlassers that were in my eyes sadists. I call names now aware not once, but it should be obvious who I mean.
The question is still, needs a something that is spiritual in nature only and but that can be called God, even laws to establish order is not in space, but specifically on the earth among people can? Even among animals there is a certain order in their ranks. But you need to nothing in writing. This can have only two reasons. Either people of böserer nature as animals, or they are just dumber than the animals, or even both at the same time.
A modern tanks cost around 3.5 million euros or even more. But many millions of people play weekly lottery to possibly a million times to get hold of. In addition, they go daily to work for others, so that others can buy with their money tanks that no one needs basically. A sheep, but which is reputed stupidity that goes Meanwhile, on the meadow grazing and lets it go. The man comes to the meadow over, looks at the sheep goes with envy and his psyche starts to split. From the evil nature still gives rise to a second, even more evil nature. Of other people then it must be ensured that monster man can be kept under control. These laws are enacted. This is total and well until there is war again and the stupid then zap each other with the completely useless in the rest of the time tanks.
But God has thus nothing to do. Had this ineffable spirit ever something to do with it? Moses smote their way a couple of stone tablets and then he disappeared for 40 days unattended on a mountain. 40 days is a long time! Moses was a learned and intelligent man. If you read the 10 commandments, then plugged as much wisdom behind it, but they are also very easy to knit; and even the Exodus from Egypt is mentioned therein, at least in the original version. Imagine, today someone wanted to start all over again, would have down there on the mountain a whole people are, the more stupid could not be, because you can come to him with any hocus-pocus, and therefore it should be as few laws as possible. Would it not just in 10 pieces? More fits so well determined not sure on the two stone tablets.
Today scratch lovers like their names into the bark of trees or a park benches. How would a man best his people to express their affection, which has voluntarily chosen him as their leader, as with only a few rules? Invents these leaders might even God for his people, which is there for her? And even mixed with faith mountains and a kingdom could be gegrünet that has yes then shown. This people, and his God, is now practically the whole world.
And all the Roman general then found when he entered the Holy of Holies in the Temple in Jerusalem, only an old wooden box, ark was called, lay in the two stone tablets, or it was at this time then just a cheap roll of papyrus? Another people however prefer to pray to a fragmented and fallen from the sky Meteroriten, calls it Kaaba. Each just his, and yet it's all the same schema.
What I mean is, God is to what people think of him. Even for non-believers, this may be then also be an ER, just because they have to be persuaded it from others. If these other a blinking cursor had declared on a focusing screen to their God, then that would mean that spirit cursor. Time the cursor is there because he is flashing and time is not of this nature there. Then bits come to more and more technique needs it and then screams the matter soon after laws provide for order and order hold on the screen and in memory. Healing cursor as you follow!
Long story short, I close it with your words from now, "German are not necessarily stupid than Chinese."
- Absolutely not, rather limited.
@ Gerd-Peter Wilke
I have HIM yes no means a continuous He called, otherwise only because he usually pretty male comes across in the Abrahamic area and the German word which God now times a masculine grammatical gender. (Would that mean he lamb, then he would be there, he would be cow, then you are.)
Otherwise, I've certainly advocated to welcome him everything, so a time.
You write:
"If I do not want to believe in something, then this is something for me not there, not even the speech is worth."
So simple is not the thing.
If people everywhere constantly talk about this Something, Something to build this huge temple (which indeed would be bearable), but not enough, on behalf curtail this thing and fight wars, I can not just wegignorieren the something. Whether the people it is only fancy, or it even exists.
The scientists have of course found no effective way to bring the faithful God finally gone to behave at least sufficiently predominantly mostly decent.
To do this, each of the writers and especially philosophers since.
They are - fortunately - usually cheaper than even one of you mentioned modern tanks; and, if they work properly, a more sustainable and sinnigere goods, ammunition, letters, also still costs almost nothing.
We will not rest nor rest until his people that God has brought to reason.
Is he not the effect of time, we must willy-nilly give him treat and take matters into their own hands.
As for the Christians, so he has, apart from this stupid-awful son's sacrifice as the basis of all symbolism (basically unforgivable), obviously some have the grace granted about not losing my mind. The Jews probably a few people in the Muslim vanishingly few.
Can disseminate one that such stories (especially towards children already!), As the Abrahamitengott that normally you lock into mental asylum. He can then make important day and night before the reborn Napoleon and Goethe and Hildegard. If he but again very inciting, it must regrettably in a single cell.
Ausschaffen would of course also a possibility. 333 333 light-years behind the Aldebaran. So that he there then but most still may own a bicycle as means of transportation. He still thinks he want to come here again.
To rely on his ability to understand, it seems to me at any rate naive. For over three thousand years, he is begging for it, and it does not help.
However, we will eventually be finished with him.
Then kitchen knives are forged from his tanks.
And his thousand devils come, so that the people will not forget, instead of innocent animals in the vacant zoos.
Gerd
Beautifully said!
"Jesus said: The kingdom of God is within you and around you, not in (magnificent) buildings of wood and stone. Column a piece of wood and I am there. Lift a stone and you will find me. "
Amen
@ Magnus
"... I can not just wegignorieren the something. Whether the people it is only fancy, or it even exists. "
If, however, this is not in a position to ignore something completely ("wegignorieren" I like the word, but that would be like trying to try out to make Nought Nothing), then it is on a spiritual level in any case available. Actually you acknowledge the fact that you hold a spiritual world for existing. The spiritual world but the world of the Spirit, which is the essence of true God.
"To" From something produce something ".
I have at least (again) produced here from a near nothingness something. "
But almost nothing is no nothing. And that in your mind an aphorism is Originated from nowhere, is practically the same as if written in the Bible: "In the beginning was the Word". The word "beginning" alone already, is also something of an aphorism, because you have to think to the end, without so could not give this beginning and the in-between. The purpose of thinking, but can happen only on a spiritual level. But this in turn is exactly what makes the Spirit of God only. Without the Spirit in us, there would be no thinking and therefore no beginning. There would not even the beginning of the word. Thus, it is the essence of God, to be able to create something from nothingness. And that dear Magnus, you can not because you're not just God.
So that you admit only from near nothing to produce something, do you consider yourself a man voluntarily to anything less than that as it is the Spirit of God. Because you give so that God the Spirit can more than you I know one who would have to addressed now determined specifically for you:. Throughout Germany, I have not found such great faith, as you have it.
Because your faith Magnus, who is not aligned with idols of stone and wood, but your faith is one and only be aimed at the mind, whose living temple you are. This is true faith, which is actually what constitutes true Anhängertum of the way basically. This thing namely the: There is another and indeed spiritual world, what others like to call the kingdom of God.
But then to say, I am an infidel, as you love to do Magnus, so you're acting really absurdity that. Thus, the spirit within you but do not rise to the full height, though still binding to a small extent under the Spirit of God, but what would you have deserved.
Gerd
"Thus, it is the essence of God, to be able to create from nothingness something."
There is no "nothingness". The material creation to come from the gods, and not from the source.
This mixes in the multidimensional space-time paradox is not, since it is the playground of the souls that the original state of consciousness voluntarily (beyond space-time) - and have thus turned away from the source - LOVE LIGHT.
Greetings
. Ps Very detailed I write about in the following discussion: http://www.allmystery.de/themen/np88057
@ Gerd-Peter Wilke
That you bring a so peppy and neatly written article here, but my first thank you!
Maybe I think anyway - at least a little.
I'll think at least according to this your Riposte in the future in more detail the context in which I am hot an unbeliever.
Nevertheless: Also, that there are spiritual forces, I do not believe, because I've seen their work so often that I'm sure their existence.
If you just want the spiritual forces now call God, why not?
Sorry, you meet very few believers who see this as "Empire" and describe how you. Unfortunately most still hanging on the coat-tails of priests, although already Luther has demonstrated that those not needed.
And if faith, then I like the our ancestors better than the Christian (and Muslim from the Mosaic times to mention).
Not only because it becomes green again, the nature of Götterdämmerung, the runes represent an unsurpassed cosmological system and he did without churches.