Meanwhile, I wonder how the word "financial expert" is actually defined.
Is this a synonym for Strauchdieb?
Or because it sounds less illegal for jugglers?
Scammers?
Or public danger braggart?
Liar Liar?
Beutelschneider?
Bufo?
Zahlendreher?
Pekuniarvertikutierer?
Money kisser?
Kapitalschwerenöter?
Liquiditätsverseftel?
Huber debt?
Kredittor?
Debitorentriez?
Markaussauger?
Bänkelsänger?
Penunzenpfeife?
Schotterzerschroter?
Gravel hole?
Powder sprayer?
Zasterzeisig?
Aschenputtler?
Commission Baron?
Percent Reaver?
Basis points?
Zinsloddel?
Kontoleichenfleddrer?
Bourhood burner?
Goldmund?
Silbergeier?
Exchange hustler?
Aktiendaddel?
Talerzersäger?
Pounds eater?
Umrubler?
Cashkäscher?
Pfenniglug?
Wertzerpflug?
I'll get it out simply not final.
The classical and comparative linguistics is not sufficient here.
Without a higher inspiration it will probably not go.
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Well, I am a banker by profession. And now?
Do I have to go in sackcloth and ashes, because I have the wrong profession or do not belong also to the other wrong, in your opinion unnecessary jobs from the neighboring Fred? I would - it would be gone for at that time for me personally - like taken a completely different profession, but is also available on your string list or would arrive there yet. Does this mean that I would have shot me, because I have no life right? Or else I would have had to take what is left of the dinner plate?
Incidentally, I have been sitting long enough on the other side of the table and consultants could here tell a lot about customers, yes, just about those who claim to be so happy to be "upright". I can tell so fast no more about the "good, simple among mankind". The there are any more than there is the good old days. The only exists for those who are stuck.
Magnus, I think you're exaggerating so slow, or - in other words - it lacks viable counter-proposals, which will also find general acceptance. A pure sanctifying his own entanglement or pure Rundumschlag are not very productive in the long run. Apart from the fact that you are about to design the control state by people to do what you have in mind. Just ask your neighbors who see many things completely different. The one you may still be right, the others have not.
I agree that mere griping sometimes helps. One or the other times too strong "Schei ...." But then there is also good and you're back on the earth.
So counter-proposals on the table: Who does what and who pays for it?
Sincerely
the bookmark
@ Bookmarks
1. Does my very sorry that you're Bänkerin in this system. You could certainly different.
2. The above was satire, and I have not exaggerated.
3. I now understand much better, which is why you have to defend it.
4. I'll say it again: A bank per country ranges.
5. This system is finished.
6. You know that.
@ Bookmarks
Another thing.
I do not even exaggerating.
I am possibly not too mild.
It has constantly held up this shit Bank.
Tell me quietly that the little people have invented for themselves.
Then I laugh only, and may take up hardly more seriously.
Oh Magnus,
I can not take you seriously because you actually are bidding no alternatives.
The banking system as it is currently knitting is really out of control. But various reasons and is partly due to the interest and compound interest system and with the uniform credit rating by the Euro, which then led to a convergence of interest rates, which has made the so-called GIIPS countries easily into debt. Apart from the debt system in the United States with respect to the mortgage.
I'll tell you times a magic word. The magic word that jump all, ie tax shelter. Since all get a glassy eye - also those who pay no tax at all. This has always fascinated me. How this works you have seen in the many sunken investments in the East, where people have gone into debt for apartments or houses up to its neck, without these ever seen.
I am not defending the people offering something. I think it's just as reprehensible as if poisoned food offered. It is plain fraud. Even less but I understand people who buy such things. At the same time such people would not even buy a pair of pants without trying them. But the word tax shelter connected with Rental guarantee would be defeated by anything, even the mind. Empire will save by doing nothing and taxes.
I can still remember very well how much earlier effective pieces were bought. We then indeed always have to point out that the interest income must be taxed, whereupon always a grinning Jaja came to answer.
This was then restricted so that by the standard tax was introduced directly to the root.
For every illegal workers heard a black client.
Also at the Super interest I can say something. In any posting I've told it before. I am certainly no Ackermann friend, but in this case he was right. The same people who now have lost a lot of money in the gigantic speculations have previously earned a lot of money. As long as the ruble rolled, no one has complained, he would not understand the system. It has also returned any winnings. But when the system crashed, all have howled.
There is a crucial sentence in this social system: No one pays more than he has to. If he does then it does, then he must - if only to cover a risk.
Each type of investment has its risk-free average interest rate. This can vary a little bit, sometimes deviate a quarter or half a percent, but the direction is right. Everything about it is clear, covers risk. This is always the case. On the loan side for that matter. The officer will pay less than the small artisan who must recover his money every month. So this means that an interest rate risk always involves significantly higher than average because the financial system is not a charity event, but shrewd calculation.
It is managed by the eternal dream of getting rich by doing nothing. Getting rich through interest income, getting rich through tax savings. Earn more by moonlighting etc. People are so because everyone is concerned about his advantage. As the saying goes: The good man thinks of himself first :).
No, Magnus, this collapse so have pretty much all been involved, as well as all roles to play in all job levels are destroyed. Behind every cheap product lies a cheap job and each is free to buy certain products or not. Pretty much ought to be clear that one can produce under humane conditions no shoes for 5 euros, as found often in discount stores. But if I buy such products, then I encourage the system. I take into account that it is doing other dirty. So I can not dissolve in self-pity, even if it caught myself.
So how does he look like now, your radical state in which none is more needed. What do you do with the 40 million Germans superfluous in your country? Back to crops and livestock? Now everyone will get a shovel in his hand? Who can do then what and where is still personal freedom? At the moment it looks more like communism in its purest form, because you've got the scepter in his hand and hold times as desired thumbs up and then back down. You complain about regulation in the media and live a even greater control.
Sincerely
the bookmark
Good Morning,
here's a supplement.
You are of the view that a bank is enough?
Well, if you prefer monopolies, then this may well be true. It leads directly into a fatal dependence not only the country but of the individual. Not only does this bank then decides on the weal and woe. It then has all the strings in hand to destroy completely human. In effect, that would be comparable to the abolition of cash. Anyone who is not agreeable to the livelihoods is removed and thus it is destroyed. Where should he go then?
Anywhere, because there is nothing or no one there. There are no alternatives. Who is likely to hold for such a power in your model state?
No, competitors are also necessary in the financial sector. The system also does not suffer from the presence of banks, but their lack of definition. It must be clarified whether the financial industry is an independent industry. If so, then it needs a product supervision as well as butter, milk and cheese. If the financial sector represents only an auxiliary economy for the so-called real economy, it needs a product limitation.
Interestingly, I found the Philosophical Quartet with Gunnar Heinsohn on this topic: Here is a compilation of three parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtO8w1QAJSo
I give him in his assessments law.
Furthermore, this presentation is worth seeing here by Hans Werner Sinn on the development of the euro and why it is a myth that Germany as benefits of the single currency:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvcN1gkaEew
He breaks down the very complex subject understandable and thus also the relationships very much, especially before the recognition that Germany was primarily an exporter of capital.
Still, I'm looking forward to more detailed explanations to your desired radical state in which all would then be sent according to your values.
Bookmark must to work and wish you a nice day :)
Banks are criminal institutions, without a doubt. But this does not have to mean that every banker in his heart is a criminal. Nevertheless, if someone is working with such a company and then relates his income, he supported the machinery that he is part of that system that put us to. Since there are no ifs and buts.
The banking crisis, which leads all economies and now currencies in the destruction is underscored by the lethal dominance of Sesselpupser in the banks. Your s actual productive work force / power for our society, apart from the wealth management from (and in return were enough a few Hansele), is equal to zero.
I therefore propose as synonyms for Financial Experts Business parasites and Gesellschaftsvernichter.
Anyone have examples of the mafia and bustle of the banks / bankers need, if you please: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU4Vfg6aCP8 .
@ Bookmarks
"No, competitors are also necessary in the financial sector."
If you feel so connected to Mammon and even so frank shows (including their own career choices) and this system so vehemently defended, so a person can not be a true Christian.
Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. You can not serve God and mammon.
@ Bookmarks
"Each type of investment has its risk-free average interest rate."
This is an illusion, and thus the madness already begins.
Why should money be without power more?
There is no good reason for it.
The other day told me a highly valued by me man, he had an "expert" is one - we found that both credible - that you belong interest-bearing starting around half a million euros assets of the winners of the system, and among them was one servant.
So that's my opinion.
I've never - never! - A good reason for it belongs, so it was a fortune should multiply by itself.
Each interest rate that is higher than the rate of inflation, is a perversion.
And now there is a the general public, any cheap temporary workers, to ensure that the investments of interest profiteers not go through the chimney.
This is not a market economy.
That's fascist socialism for the rich.
Expropriation of the many, poor, for the few rich.
That you do not want to admit it, I can understand.
But it is so.
Since the mouse bites from no thread.
@ Infonautin
"Economic parasites and Gesellschaftsvernichter"
@ Joseph
For Christianity, I'm probably not really responsible in this area - although I have already incorporated this - not really competent.
I find it nevertheless not difficult to understand your train of thought.
@ Bookmarks
I think it's honest geagt crass even as you, the little people who otherwise a thrift store buy kik or socks or jackets that deserve just seven euros an hour in a city like Stuttgart, hard as a temp in the Swabian metal industry working, always on the lower limit for the misery mithauptverantwortlich doing while you think the system is still high.
When such people also go only once a quarter for Breuninger or salamander to get a decent jacket, trousers and a pair of shoes to buy, they can at least this time their children do not even buy you ice, buy them a new table tennis racket , or whatever.
You're living on another planet.
Work hard every day and hardly come on Hartz level is now the reality of hundreds of thousands, if not millions.
At the same time "systemically important" banks are fattened up, the money is given away in each foreign sunk etc.
I can not tell in detail how a society should look like, which makes this madness behind you, in fact.
But if you reproach me dictatorial tendencies, I ask you: What is this but a dictatorship of big money?
Are the people were to euro, the Treaty of Lisbon (which you then immediately broke) to the whole "parachutes" ever wonder?
Pipe cap, you ask people give a damn.
One picture erber siege and denktankt you lie, lie, lie and cheat even thirty-three times.
That is the reality.
You seem to live in cloud cuckoo land.
And, the issue we had, defend from there the Geldnomadentum the upper middle class.
The Economist switch.
I know that 20-30 years ago, every worker could go drink a beer in the evening, without going into its current account. Not anymore.
In the meantime, the large private assets have doubled or tripled (real) wages in virtually all euro area countries have increased (in real terms), except for us (often violently fallen in real terms).
In years to come gushing corporate profits.
That you can not seriously be denied.
But do you think it was all so, because people do not go to the Breuninger or salamander.
I do not know how is this going to take seriously.
You argue like a stubborn child who does not want to admit that you can not hinuntbrezeln 120 km / h slope with the tricycle.
I'm sorry to have to carry so harsh words, I appreciate you very much, your mind, your compassion, your humor, am grateful for all the good posts that you have set here ('ll hopefully continue to add) this page crucial enriching.
Let go.
This form of capitalism is ultimately an all-destroying machine.
She brings poverty, hunger, war, corruption, dictatorship.
And of course the general intellectual and moral degradation, cultural destruction, once in passing.
Let go.
And, if you want to be Christian, then I am all the more glad that I am not a Christian.
Let go.
If you want to do something, you have to let go of it first.
Says the Chinese.
As a German, I say: What we have learned, it does not contribute to heavy.
LG
Magnus
@ Bookmarks
Another thing to Bedenk.
Recently, I read what (it was the FAZ or SZ, does not matter) that I was sheer bad.
The new Greek-dad was praised as a financial expert who could lead the country out of the crisis now, which has already darausher would prove how awesome he had formerly made Greece a decisive factor in the euro.
Yes, in a gigantic hoax, under active contributors and strong abkassierenden Schackos Goldman Sachs.
So natural is lying there.
And no one comes to trial.
No: For something there Karl prices for Aachen.
You craps people direktemang face.
A single swamp, mud, trash, scum.
Hach, so here you go completely wild.
For one, I do not think the system is high, but only clarify some common and popular mistakes on.
Magnus, you write:
"I think it's honest geagt pretty wicked as you, the little people who otherwise a thrift store buy kik or socks or jackets that deserve just seven euros an hour in a city like Stuttgart, hard as contract workers working in the Swabian metal industry, always at the lower limit of the plight mithauptverantwortlich doing while you think the system is still high. "
Dear Magnus, if only the poor people would buy the discounter, would the Aldi brothers not in the top 10 of Forbes billionaire list. And when I look at the coaches me in the parking lots, then there buys not poverty.
The system works like this: You go into a store around the corner and let detailed advice. Then you go to the internet and order the current discounters CD that educates about when that product is to be had on the cheap. Then you wait and only then buy one when the time comes. These are not isolated cases, this is common practice.
Even if you close your eyes to the facts behind every cheap product at least put a cheap job and every consumer bears the system. He could also handle differently, eg shopping where people get decent salaries. But there then the product is more expensive because the employee must be paid. Everybody is responsible for what he does with his money.
The same applies for baking plants, for Kik and Co, tack and the rest of them. None of these stores would exist if the customer a functioning social system would really mean something if they would rather their bread. You might as well go to other transhipment sites, the specialist bakery, the shoe store or the butcher, who resides there for generations. You do not want it because it is cheaper elsewhere.
Very well. I do not think so, I have never acted that way. For a long time I have my very own boycott list - both for products and for crushing job shops. Nevertheless, it is my experience that in general, the solidarity ends at your purse.
Very good by the way you have seen in the scrappage scheme. Since the German taxpayers paid for scrapping and the purchase of a new car money - and the winner was: Romania. The people then just bought a Opel or any other German car to save German jobs, but Dacia and some other French model, whose name I just can not remember. It was just nice cheap. It does not matter whether German jobs it go. The main thing is not mine.
To the average interest rate:
The interest rate is actually a problem because it leads over the compound interest means that there is any wannn a rental problem. This one has many places also recognized. Whether one is going to change that, I do not know.
With my objection I have only pointed out how it currently runs in practice and why I can not understand people who resort to high-risk investments. But since the dollar signs in their eyes put out of your mind simply. Nevertheless, to date, the rule is that whatever the average interest rate exceeds risk cover. Usually when 3 percent for three-year investments paid and suddenly pays a 7 or 8, then you have to ask questions. Those who do not, it is your own fault if he flies on the nose. Not to mention dubious Internet at banks, which nobody knows.
Is quite simple as that.
Oh, my Christianity. It was clear that this had now come again. What it has to do with it, does not want to open up to me. I can also sick of hearing. But apparently this is so, if arguments go out ...
Magnus, you deliver still no alternatives. It may be that you're feeling better by now you eindrischst to me, only you change anything about the situation. On the demise of the system all have dabbled, individually and some together. The slightly longer and the other a little less. If this system is collapsing now, it's me personally very pretty, if that happens now, not in 15 or 20 years. Now we are still fresh enough to build ourselves something new. Whether it succeeds in 20 years, I can not say. If not, would I notice with full weight to our children a burden and that's what I do not want even more.
But I will not have the desired of thee monopoly economy in which I have to ask anyone's permission to take this or that job or to live my life in one way or another. Then I come from a jail in the next. You may even be quite a nice person, but I do not want to leave me aufdiktieren of you my life.
Maybe we need to accept that never the perfect system will succeed. I think of my great-grandparents, I see a large farm with no electricity or running water, living on their own 16 children plus two adopted children, many stillbirths, infections, to toil from morning to night and the famous Herzhäusschen on the farm. I think of a 12-hour working underground, a 2-hour round 2-hour return trip. For die-hards that's the good old days, for me a life that I would not want to have for me. Since I prefer the here and now.
Capitalism may have destructive forces of communism has even more. The solution of the social market economy was certainly the right way, but was set by global competition without universal rules expire. Since social market economy is struggling with their ancillary expenses merciless exploitation on an assembly line. The loser of this fight must be established.
Greece is irretrievably. This is just like that.
Also there you can see a beautiful example of solidarity: the country is in debt with over 300 billion. In recent times, about 600 billion personal fortune was out of the country. It is only too happy to buy real estate in Germany it - finally preferred to secure investments and you never know .... The irony is hard to get an offer and can any reasonable person only drive the tears of laughter in his eyes.
But people are so, especially since THE government has replaced the village community. On a small scale namely someone noticed that stepped out of line. Now, in the wider context is anonymous and it falls to the individual lighter, the responsibility and the blame for everything to leave DEM States.
Yes, Greece has lied about the Euro-accession. Germany has also bent around to the rules, just like other countries. Everyone is just concerned about his advantage. That can not work a building on such shaky foundations, now also looks to the past have become clear.
Why eindreschen corrupt Greek political celebrities? Please stay in their own country. Es waren vorzugsweise die Landesbanken, die die Gelder versenkt haben. Das sind Banken, in denen die Landesfürsten bzw. deren Vertreter in den Aufsichtsgremien sitzen. Ist einer davon entlassen worden? Ich habe nichts davon mitbekommen. Soweit mir bekannt ist, schwimmen die alle wie Fettaugen oben auf der Suppe mit. Also lohnt es, erst einmal in eigenen Reihen aufzuräumen. Each return before his own door.
It greets
the bookmark
@ Bookmarks
Well, we probably will not so easily agree on this matter.
But the fact that I have mentioned those lies Greeks, was only a random sample.
Only recently was the Schäuble off here.
This is a baggage.
You mean, everyone has somehow contributed to it.
This is partially true, but nonetheless a form of colossal displacement.
They told the people that they should, everywhere touted it as alternative, ridiculed anyone an idiot, if not slandered as public enemy, who did not join in.
I criticize this for over twenty years and therefore knows about modest also from personal experience.
Still, we are told, it should be just human nature, such mishaps would now times before, better solutions than this predatory capitalism did not exist, all those fairy tales.
Mechanisms for you, also regarding Wealthier, describe, are quite as stated by you.
Who but the people so conditioned?
Why, with what objectives?
Who owns, especially in the beautiful USA, virtually all mass media? (I know the question I had not even allowed to ask, because it can be too easy to answer, making it really, as a lawyer said not "transparent".)
And rather monopolies (rail, water, electricity, Sraßen, military, police ...) in people's hands, as virtually everything that a gang of irresponsible oligarchs.
I want as much as possible to a real market economy.
However, we have just the banking industry not, otherwise would be all, except for a few small, now bankrupt (the word speaks for itself.)
People who drive anything on the wall, get millions salaries, which could also Liechen Müller for a thousand euros a month.
It's all wrong.
And this is intentional.
Es gibt genug Literatur dazu, die nicht von Paranoikern, sondern von sehr vernünftigen Leuten abgefasst wurde.
Keine “Verschwörungstheorien”, sondern knallhart mit Fakten unterlegte Abhandlungen.
Die ich in der Tat schon lange gar nicht mehr lese.
Denn, wie gesagt, ich habe das Spiel schon seit gut zwanzig Jahren begriffen.
Es ist das “Spiel” einiger weniger total Irrer.
Die mit allen Mitteln arbeiten, arbeiten lassen.
Und ich habe Deinen Glauben nicht erwähnt, weil mir die Argumente ausgegangen wären.
Sondern, weil der sich auf Liebe beruft.
Damit haben jene weniger am Hut, als dass eine Blattlaus sich um die von ihr befallene Pflanze bekümmerte.
Diese Leute gehen über Millionen Leichen.
Sie bilden die Spitze der Dollarpyramide.
Sie machen vor nichts halt.
Ihre Pläne sind nicht erst seit Albert Pike auf der Welt, aber seit diesem besonderen Philanthropen immerhin so richtig griffig.
Du kannst auch Brzezinski lesen, der lebt sogar noch.
Oder schau Dir mal jenen Erzschakalstrupp namens Skull & Bones an.
Ein einziger schwarzmagischer Klub.
Aber nicht von Putzfrauen.
Einer von Yottabetriegern.
Meinst Du etwa, die machen das ganze mit Sarg und Cochise-Schädel und Schwanzbändel und symbolischer Hinrichtung (was weiß ich noch) bloß zum Spaß?
Das sind Hardcore-Satanisten.
Und, obschon ich nicht an den Satan glaube: Satanisten sind mir nicht egal.
Die opfern nicht nur Hühner.
Die sind böse.
Ja, böse.
Das fände ich nicht einmal lässig, wenn es nur in einem schlammichten Hinterhof von Sierra Leone stattfände.
Es findet aber in höchsten Kreiesen statt.
Bei denen, die hier die Losungen ausgeben.
In Bohemian Grove, im “Tempel” zu Yale, überall bei diesen geisteskranken Baphomet-Anbetern, inmitten sexueller Perversion, von Sadismus, Päderastentum, jeder Art Aufladung des Bösen durch bewusst gelenkte Grausamkeit.
Die sind nicht Lieschen Müller oder Heinz Huber, der, obzwar einen BMW fahrend, beim Aldi einkauft.
Die sind der absolute menschliche Abgrund, und der ist derzeit oben!
A fact! A fact! A fact!
Du kannst alles überprüfen, was ich erwähnt habe.
Es gibt noch viel mehr.
Und wenn Du eins findest, das Du irgend vernünftig bezweifeln könntest, so stünde immer noch der Rest und, wie gesagt, noch viel mehr.
In einem Vierteljahrhundert der Recherche gelingt es selbst einem mit meinen begrenzten Geistesgaben, einige Dinge zu erhärten.
(Die jüngere Historie lasse ich jetzt mal weg. Das oben darf ich – noch – sagen.)
Ich bin kein Satanist.
To that effect, contrary to me in earnest probably not even Joseph.
I think such people, these Satanists, with their gruesome rituals for the latest valid psychological manipulation, for systematically organized plague the planet.
Magnus, you jump from one topic to another. Now we are at the Satanists. Also, we can talk about it much. But we were actually at the monopolies.
I agree with you that a certain basic services (water, energy, transport routes, etc.) is in state hands. I was always against this rail privatization, especially as Mehdorn the thought. But this is anything other than a bank. A bank does not belong in government hands and she needs competitors. This serves inter alia to fuse the individual. My example with the abolition of cash I have brought.
We therefore have no banking market economy, because the currently valid Economics does not know a financial sector. I refer here again on the link above for shipment with Gunnar Heinsohn. This means that 80 Nobel Prizes were completely for naught in the economy, because significant portions of economy were simply hidden or simply did not occur. It almost seems to mention this, because actually it's embarrassing.
The financial sector is still not even defined, which means that in fact no one knows if it is a separate industry or a kind of auxiliary economy for the so-called real economy. That should clear up most times.
Magnus, I suppress nothing. Exactly the opposite is the case. It just does not make sense to develop a social system that hides the human factor. And that's what you do. For you, there are the bad guys up there and the innocents down there. If this were true, then it is likely to give, for example, in homeless shelters no thefts, but it takes a total unity, harmony and the spirit of sharing float above it all.
Stay been there.
Sorry, namely attacks here again the statistics, which states that the proportion of good and evil equally distributed above and below.
People are selfish and considered on their own best advantage. Without a sound unique teaching and persuasion they would not even have a moral and would make good and evil relative terms. This is want a society in which I would not live and I do not guess you also. So you have to start small. Will they forced bless no one has to convince and sometimes burn the mouth you. Not everyone will jump on your Meinungszug, but one or two maybe. Then it is not a huge victory that will fit on a title bar, but rather a small, personal triumph.
Yes, and that's why mine is the one that clearly exemplifies the love and preaches that requires me to love my enemies, who sets the bar so high that I can sometimes loosely fro among them, that is why it is so important to me , He is also so important to me, because it takes me voluntarily and not brain-damaged me. This path has a price, but the "gain" of the inserted therein is accessible with nothing else in this world.
But this only as a short trip.
Yes, in the US there is a monopoly of opinion. This is very bad. Only I can not change from Europe, but would like to leave the Americans. Meanwhile, you can even take care of the local media in Europe, because there is plenty to do. So you have to make here grassroots work, start persuasion boycott calls, write nasty comments and also does not allow censorship deterred.
The world turns, but it rotates slowly. Until developments in transition but others will come or changed, sometimes generations are born and die again. This is ego-centered beings difficult for us to accept, we shall live like as if it would give us forever.
@ Bookmarks
Ich springe nicht von einem Thema zum andern.
Diese Satanisten sind das Wesen des Systems.
Ich leiste in Europa die Arbeit, von der Du sprichst.
Und ich weiß, dass es mich nicht ewig geben wird.
Das brauche ich auch nicht, und es schreckt mich nicht.
“Menschen sind Egoisten”
Was für ein erbärmlicher Satz.
Der gilt für Dich nicht, für mich nicht, nicht für Luther, Nietzsche, Leonidas.
Menschen sind mehr als das.
Ich weiß das.
@ Bookmarks
Mir scheint manchmal, wie eben auch zum wiederholten Male in einem anderen Gespräch erfahren, dass Du wie nochwelche glaubst, man könne ohne Glauben gar nicht vernünftig existieren.
Dieser Glaube mag wohlfeil sein, entbehrt indes jeder Grundlage.
Er ist lediglich ein Schutzglaube für den eigenen jeweiligen Glauben.
Nothing more.
Dass jeder, wahrscheinlich so ziemlich jeder, ausdrücklich einschließlich meiner selbst, seine schwachen, saumseligen, seelisch oder gesundheitlich darniederliegenden, schwachen Phasen durchlebt, spricht nicht dawider, sondern gerade erst recht dafür.
Bin ich als Affe eines Gottes auf der Welt?
Diese Frage allein beantwortet den Rest.
Besser gut gestorben, denn bloß schlecht gelebt.
Irgendwelche Satanisten mögen…
Ich habe aber keine Angst vor denen.
Ich weiß, wie sie heißen, wie sie handeln, wo sie sitzen.
Und Häute hat man mir auch schon abgezogen.
Teils zu meinem Guten.
Man hat mich aber auch schon genug dazu belogen.
Und Dir käme es gleichweis nicht schlecht an, Dir ebenfalls deren Namen zu merken.
Bei allem scheinst Du noch nichts von der eigentlichen Qual zu wissen.
Obzwar Du schon geboren hast.
Doch Magnus, du springst hin und her. Bleib doch einfach mal beim Thema.
You write:
““Menschen sind Egoisten” – Was für ein erbärmlicher Satz.”
Es ist nicht nur ein erbärmlicher Satz, sondern eine erbärmliche Wahrheit und sie zieht sich durch alle Gesellschaftsklassen.
“Der gilt für Dich nicht, für mich nicht, nicht für Luther, Nietzsche, Leonidas.”
Doch, es gilt auch für Dich und mich und auch alle anderen guten wie bösen Menschen. Es ist nicht das Problem, ob man Egoismus hat, sondern wie sehr man ihn im Griff hat. Dazu benötigt man eine entsprechende Sozilalisation. Die hast du bekommen, ich auch und viele anderen auch. Wir erhalten aber nicht alle die gleiche Sozialisation und so kommt es, dass da oder dort Gut und Böse eben doch relative Begriffe sind.
Weiterhin schreibst du:
“Mir scheint manchmal, wie eben auch zum wiederholten Male in einem anderen Gespräch erfahren, dass Du wie nochwelche glaubst, man könne ohne Glauben gar nicht vernünftig existieren.”
Nein, das habe ich nie behauptet. Vielmehr das genaue Gegenteil ist der Fall. Ich habe sogar mehrfach darauf hingewiesen, dass das Interessanteste insbesondere am christlichen Glauben die Freiwilligkeit ist. Wenn man keinen Glauben hat, fehlt einem kein einziges Brötchen auf dem Frühstücksteller. Nichtglaube bedeutet keinerlei irdische Existenzgefährdung.
“Bin ich als Affe eines Gottes auf der Welt?”
Nein, denn wenn es so wäre, würdest du kaum an deinem Computer sitzen und im Netz bloggen. Du würdest dich vielmehr von Baum zu Baum schwingen und die nächsten Bananenstauden suchen.
Wenn Gott hirnlose Menschen zu seinen Diensten hätte haben wollen, hätte er sie so geschaffen. Hat er aber nicht.
Trotzdem war der / mein Glaube hier nicht das Thema. Ich möchte auch nicht, dass er es wird. Das Gegenteil ist der Fall, denn es nervt schon, dass er bei jeder passenden und unpassenden Gelegenheit wie ein Kaninchen aus dem Hut gezaubert wird, um daraus ein Gegenargument zu stricken.
Und was die Satanisten betrifft, so gibt es da für mich nur die Erkenntnis, dass Macht zu Perversionen führen kann, wenn man eben keinen standfesten Glauben an ein eindeutig definiertes Gute hat. Da greifen dann diese Mechanismen, wenn Gut und Böse relative Begriffe sind. Je mehr das Gros der Menschen ausschließlich auf sich selbst bedacht ist, umso besser funktioniert das übrigens. Die Aufteilung der Gesellschaft in Individuen, das Locken mit der Selbstverwirklichung, das Predigen des Individualismus, materielle und moralische Vernichtung von Familienverbänden etc. – genau das führt dazu, dass mit steigendem Level die Kontrollmechanismen entweder versagen oder schlicht nicht vorhanden sind. Zu sehr ist jeder einzelne mit sich selbst beschäftigt, um diese Auswirkungen zu sehen. In einer Gesellschaft, die wirklich zusammenhalten würde, in der es eindeutig definierte Werte gäbe, hätten es solche Leute deutlich schwerer. Aber da sehe ich bis zum Horizont keinerlei Trend, dem entgegenzuwirken. Jeder ist sich da selbst der nächste und lebt auch so.
Menschen sind eben doch Egoisten :) – und diese Erkenntnis birgt den allergrößten Nutzen für die, die so gern ohne Kontrolle regieren wollen und dies dann auch tun.
Sincerely
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zum lesezeichen
tut mir leid, aber wer sich auf heinssohn und sinn beruft, der is meiner meinung nach der herrschenden “hochkriminellen elite” voll auf den leim gekrochen.
Lesezeichen irrt wenn er/sie meint das die Mehrzahl Egoisten sind und immer nur den eigenen Vorteil sehen. Diese Denkweise ist aber Vorraussetzung für das was Lesezeichen vorraussetzt um zu argumentieren.
Das es temporär zu solchen “Erscheinungen” kommt ist selbstverständlich, wenn man sich mal die Entwicklungen am Verkaufsmarkt ansieht. zB wenn man annimmt (fiktiv) das es einst 100 inländische Hersteller von Bekleidung gab, und nun nur noch einen kleinen Teil. Ohne auf Einzelheiten einzugehen kann man dort ja mal anfangen zu gucken wie so was entsteht und wer dann das Heft und die Vorteile in die Hand nimmt. Desweiteren wer unverschuldet auf der Strecke bleibt.
Werter Landbewohner,
ich habe mich nicht auf Sinn und Heinsohn “berufen”, sondern auf sie verwiesen, weil sie die aktuellen Zusammenhänge am besten erklären können – einschließlich der Fehler im System und genau darauf kommt es an.
Sinn ist mir normalerweise zu schwerfällig in seiner Art. Aber es gibt einige Vorträge bzw. Zusammenschnitte von ihm, die sind wirklich schlüssig. Insbesondere dort, wo es um Deutschlands Kapitalexporte geht oder dort, wo er den sogenannten Exportüberschuss dem Importdefizit gegenüberstellt.
Es geht nicht darum, ob mir eine Meinung gefällt oder nicht, sondern ob jemand mit dem, was er sagt, die Wahrheit sagt. Manchmal ist eine Wahrheit eben auch unangenehm.
Es winkt
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