HAARP weapon as a natural disaster?

Even during the recent Japan quake evaporated the rumor mill, "HAARP", the huge Elektromagnetikanlage the U.S. military in Alaska is, in the situation - has also been used to the effect and - to produce earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, atmospheric disturbances, etc..

Fact is first time that there is the facility, she was certainly not cheap and that they never openly recognizable reasonable purposes current eats as usual a whole city.

That the military usually working on weapons systems, huge investments will perform more for military purposes, research for more effective warfare, probably self evident to those who know best nothing, because knowledge is known, can affect healthy sleep.

So what is it about this mysterious complex?

A physicist, I times to asked (to maintain the abundant suspicion, close ties to the U.S. war machine, also think about how you do not read every day in the tabloids, not in principle averse), reckoned to me hastily that there potentially emitted energy already measured on a small volcanic eruption was nigh ridiculously low, how much vanishing towards a just medium earthquakes.

Therefore, he concluded that it was in this case just yet to spinning, to claim that HAARP could trigger earthquakes and the like, is scientifically untenable nonsense.

Full convince (a few bars of natural science, even physics as a compulsory subject to study biology, I also enjoyed once) could get his bill, which was undoubtedly correct in terms of orders of magnitude, but even then not.

If you like, two examples from chemistry: the activation energy, which is necessary to trigger a violent reaction may be relatively tiny.

Analogously, one could have found a mechanism for initiating the discharge of seismic and geothermal potential.

Furthermore: A catalyst lowers the activation energy, accelerates a reaction, consumes itself not even once.

We should therefore think not necessarily only along the laws of classical mechanics and electrical engineering.

On the other hand, it does not help much, just to believe HAARP could this and that.

Faith belongs in the church.

I would be very grateful if people of electromagnetics more than I do, illuminate the story once would objectively.

Although I do not want anything to theses speculations even said that himself - otherwise they were called not so - not yet be absolutely proved.

But would be helpful statements that are not based purely on astrological conjectures, ostensibly from Aldebaran or even Tesla from beyond channeled cloudy hints, but in some - albeit initially so amazing, complex, hardly comprehensible manner - further potentially bring.

Appropriate links are also welcome.

The like for like to refer to pages that do not meet the desired requirements absolutely excellent here.

All right, has also once again Jesus already knew everything, and it is evident in the Bible.

And of course, I do not care where information comes from, whether deduced from the Dog Star, an astral plane, ambiterrestrischen aliens or the mating behavior of the bonobo, they provided only continue somehow appropriate.

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41 Responses to "HAARP weapon as a natural disaster?"

  1. AllaBaba says:

    "Weather as a weapon" - documentation on N-TV from 6.2, also on Youtube. HAARP principle is also explained there.

    HAARP works then as earthquake triggers when an ELF wave hits are live strata, so to speak, as drops, which can bring the camel's back, shown in the film based on a model.

  2. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ AllaBaba

    What do you standest to lead, would be exactly like my activation energy analogy from chemistry.

  3. AllaBaba says:

    For non-equilibrium systems - and this is Japan, because it lies on a tectonic fault zone - act ELF waves as a catalyst.

    But you already knew - even before HAARP - that it is an extremely big risk to build nuclear power plants in Japan, and she has designed so that they - allegedly - remain intact up to a quake strength of 7.5 (to be).

    What we are seeing is what was already very long ago known as a potential scenario. The incredible stupidity of the people is to finance technologies death against all reason and build.

    The earth now shaking down the people of the earth, because their driving is un-bearable ... .. stupidity is punishable by death ...

  4. AllaBaba says:

    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/haarp.html

    Here you will find much more detailed information.

    The technology of the U.S. military were certainly not be installed from pure spirit of research in Alaska, it can be assumed.

  5. Infonaut says:

    You have not so dig deep to find out more about HAARP. A look at Wikipedia sufficient: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAARP .

    Amazingly, there is also that it is not only in Alaska are dergleiche antenna systems for several years. The elements referred to in Wikipedia, there are unconfirmed reports results not only provide more in Russia (eg in Siberia.) As well as in Great Britain, Brazil, Australia, China, India and - you believe it - Japan!

    In ASR blog, a graph is shown of alleged HAARP activities which is to show similarity with the earthquake in Japan. Unfortunately, the card is no legend and inscription, without mentioning the source ( http://is.gd/3tJp50 - all the way down at the end of the article). What do you think?

    It also remains open whether the above-mentioned devices are synchronized or rather against one another. When the Second would be the case and HAARP plays a role in the current disaster, then who could be interested in a "downfall" of Japan have?

  6. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ AllaBaba

    In fact, you already knew when they built the local dirt bucket - without HAARP or the like - earthquake, whose strength lay many times over 7.5.

    "The incredible stupidity of the people is to finance technologies death against all reason and build."

    So it is.

    I have just learned yet that one of the straight durchschmorenden old bucket was ingeniously also lined with plutonium since October last year.

    Ironically, the oldest and abgefackteste part.

    One should not believe it.

  7. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Infonaut

    Good question, as always, those after the "cui bono".

    In this respect include the question of who might want to harm why Japan to such a degree, indirectly here.

  8. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Infonaut

    I guess the "gold and silver people" will hardly complain about this disaster ...

    Similarly, the wind and solar industry, the oil and gas people, the pharmaceutical industry ...

  9. AllaBaba says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VX0JvpW5q0&feature=player_embedded#at=50

    Fulford asks the Minister of Finance of Japan, Heizo Takenaka "Why do they have handed over control of the Japanese financial system to a group of American and European oligarchs?" The response from Takenaka was

    "Because Japan was threatened by an earthquake machine !!!"

    See also: All smoke and mirrors: Is there a Erdbebenwaffe? http://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.com/2008/05/gibt-es-eine-erdbebenwaffe.html#ixzz1GUPMM7Vl

  10. MATZE says:

    Hello! Here something to read from the European parliament! (To HAARP and other unweltverändernden techniques) indeed is from 1995 but since Wore black on knows that HAARP is capable to do so! ...

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides
    /getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+REPORT+A4-1999-0005+0+DOC+XML+V0//DE

  11. MATZE says:

    PS the link plus all the rest behind it copy in the browser then you land on the document. (Approximately in the center you go to HAARP)

  12. Heidi says:

    I think HAARP should not be justified by known physics or other science education.
    That would not do justice to this complex.
    What we already know about frequencies, waves, vibrations and all the niceties, which can be reached with an extremely low cost extremely high effectiveness. You simply jumps onto the destination ... etc.
    We also know little about the energy transfer possibilities to other levels as in the ground there, in the ionosphere, etc.

  13. the thought criminals says:

    must see !! mind-blowing documentation!

    Stratospheric sulfate aerosols confirmation of (geoengineering)
    For more than 10 years spray the aluminum, barium, strontium,
    Discussion of the responsible scientist AAA
    The Royal Society September 2009
    (John Holdren !!! the board)

    What spray because in the world? - German version

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwWz997dgc0

    P. Holdren is advisor to President Barack Obama
    for Science and Technology

    Ecoscience:
    POPULATION,
    RESOURCES,
    ENVIRONMENT

    John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

    Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures used to control the population

    http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

    ........................................................................ ..
    HAARP
    U.S. Patent No. 4,686,605
    ----------------------------
    United States Patent
    4,686,605
    Eastlund
    August 11, 1987
    ----------------------------
    Method and apparatus for old ring a region in the earth's atmosphere,
    ionosphere, and / or magnetosphere

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14978672/HAARP-USPatentNo4686605
    ………………………………………………………………………………………..
    REPORT
    January 14, 1999
    PE 227 710 / fin A4-0005 / 99
    on Environment, Security and Foreign Policy
    Draftsman: Mr Olsson, Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection
    ("Hughes" procedure)
    Committee on Foreign Affairs, Security and Defence Policy
    Rapporteur: Ms Maj Britt Theorin

    see> use of military resources for the benefit of the environment

    T. whereas, that military research on the influence of the environment as a weapon despite existing agreements continues, as the example of the HAARP system based in Alaska shows

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+REPORT+A4-1999-0005+0+DOC+XML+V0//DE
    ....................................................................................................
    April 28, 1997

    U.S. Department of Defense
    Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs)

    http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=674
    ………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025
    A Research Paper Presented To
    Air Force 2025 by Col Tamzy J. House, Lt Col James B. Near, Jr.
    LTC William B. Shields (USA) Maj Ronald J. Celentano
    Maj David M. Husband, Maj Ann E. Mercer Maj James E. Pugh
    August 1996

    http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
    .....................................................................................

    The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction:
    "Owning the Weather" for Military Use
    by Michel Chossudovsky

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html
    ........................................................................................

  14. the thought criminals says:

    International Humanitarian Law - Treaties & Documents
    Convention on the prohibition of military or any hostile use of environmental modification techniques,

    10 December 1976th

    (Think !!!!) 1976!

    http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/FULL/460?OpenDocument

    Guided by the interest of a secured peace, and the arms race to a halt in the request, and to bring the general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control, and to save mankind from the danger of new types of warfare ..

    Recognizing that scientific and technical progress may have opened new avenues in the change of environment,

    In the memory of the declaration of the United Nations Human Development, adopted on June 16, 1972,

    Recognizing that the use of techniques could help improve the mutual relations of man and nature to change the environment for peaceful purposes to maintain and enhance the development for the benefit of present and future generations,

    Nevertheless, recognizing that military or could have extremely adverse effects on the welfare of humanity at any other hostile utility of such techniques ..

    is there any state not allowed as a party to be weather weapons get used, not even from orbit or space when aloud Article 1 "widespread, long-lasting or severe effects in the meaning of destruction, damage or injury to any other State Party" has.

    It specifically mentions:
    - Earthquakes or changes in the earth's crust
    - Tsunamis
    - Weather phenomena such as cyclones, tornadoes, cloud formation, precipitation / rain
    - Disturbance of the ecological balance of a region
    - The influence of ocean currents, etc.

    And that was the 1976th

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  16. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Heidi

    Exactly.

    We still know too little.

    So I'm doing the barrel on here.

  17. Miguel says:

    Hi Magnus,

    I recommend you (and everyone else) urgently, to watch the following video of "conrebbi" (from 13/03/2011).

    I think this should answer your questions regarding HAARP / earthquake weapon exhaustive!

    "Japan's Megabeben- description of the earthquake weapon"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO-1DF5RKQ8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

  18. Arno Nym says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npzvWGZfdho&sns=em

  19. the thought criminals says:

    I think there would be a revolution.
    If people would really understand what is happening.

    The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction:
    "Owning the Weather" for Military Use
    by Michel Chossudovsky

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html

    .............................................................................. ..
    Stratospheric sulfate aerosols (geoengineering)

    Former FBI Chief Agent demands the immediate STOP
    German
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46uj09oFvko

    The former agent of the IRS in the United States,
    Joe Bannister, talks about the genocide taking place by "chemtrails" Stratospheric sulfate aerosols (geoengineering)
    - Toxic aerosols, over the heads of people
    are sprayed by planes. Which takes place worldwide.

    The Ex-IRS Agent and the Chemtrails genocide
    German
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0gSeJYWPMw

    ............................................................................................. ..

    must see !! mind-blowing photos
    Cloud formations

    Weather Warfare

    http://weatherwars.info/?p=92
    .......................................................................................

    The Military's Pandora's Box

    by Dr. Nick Begich and Jeane Manning

    This article which prepared To provide a summary of the contents of a book written in 1995 Which Describes at Entirely new class of weapons. The weapons and Their effects are Described everything the pages. The United States Navy and Air Force have joined with the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, to build a prototype for a ground based "Star Wars" weapon system located in the remote bush country of Alaska.

    http://www.haarp.net/

    ...................................................................

    Seismic Monitor
    http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
    ...................................................................

    The HAARP project - Holes in Heaven - 1.6

    Documentation / German
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx0-cEG2CSA

    see Dr. Bernard Eastlund
    He was the initiator of a precursor of the HAARP project in the 1980s, for which he has some technology patents.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Eastlund

    HAARP
    U.S. Patent No. 4,686,605
    ----------------------------
    United States Patent
    4,686,605
    Eastlund
    August 11, 1987
    ----------------------------
    Method and apparatus for old ring a region in the earth's atmosphere,
    ionosphere, and / or magnetosphere

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14978672/HAARP-USPatentNo4686605
    .........................................................................

    Basic Information on HAARP
    German
    http://www.erinnerungsforum.net/forum/umwelt/haarp/45/?wap2
    ........................................................................... ..

    Angels Still Do not Play This HAARP
    1:17:53

    The sequel to 'Angels Do not Play This HAARP'. This documentary is a visual accompaniment to the book by Dr. Nick Begich, 'Angels Still Do not Play This HAARP: Advances In Tesla Technology'.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2804238542173218531#docid=-8066925138937638623
    ...................................................................

    S Patent No. 4,686,605 -. August 1987

    "Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere and / or magnetosphere"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,712,155 -. Dec. 1987

    "Method and apparatus for creating an artificial, heated by electron Zyklotronenresonanz region from plasma"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,038,664 -. August 1991

    "Method for producing a shell of relativistic particles in a (certain) above the Earth"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,068,669 - November 1991.

    "Energy beams" system

    U.S. Patent No. 5,218,374 -. Jun. 1993

    "Energy-ray system with radiant, consisting of printed circuit elements resonant cavities"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,293,176 -. March 1994

    "Folded dipole antenna cross-grid"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,202,689 -. April 1993

    "Focusing lightweight reflector for use in space"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,041,834 -. August 1991

    "Artificial, steerable shaped plasma of ionospheric mirror"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,999,637 - March 1991.

    "Creation of artificial ion clouds over the earth"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,954,709 -. September 1990

    "Directed, high-resolution gamma-ray detector"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,817,495 -. April 1989

    "Defensive System to distinguish between objects in space"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,873,928 -. Oct. 1989

    Initiator of a precursor of the HAARP project
    Bernard J. Eastlund (* 1938, † 12 December 2007) was an American physicist and inventor.
    BIBLIOGRAPHY-EAST LUND
    http://www.eastlundscience.com/BIBLIOGRAPHY.html

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  21. Tester says:

    I can only confirm this as electronics, quite plausible. Consider that Tesla with a fist-sized mechanical resonator already building brought to totter, resonance funtioniert electrically as well. Patents to be found on the homepage of Ami-Patenentbehörde, not even hidden.

    The graphs of HAARP activities you can see on the homepage of HAARP and you can see that the first earthquake in Japan a few days ago HAARP same time full pulle fired. The same as it was at the Haiti quake.

  22. Tester says:

    Pull up the new items, one could trace it to its source, it was an investment in Neveda as Fulford has said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUG7N8wcHts&tracker=False

  23. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Tester

    Thanks for the hint on the principle of resonance.

    I remember spontaneously as I was fourteen stood at my tram stop, and to the learned in school to check just once, probably at the very point where a thick (estimate 15 cm diameter) lamppost, tested with the bare hand, if because the actually functioning.

    After about two minutes, rattled and shook the circa 6 meters high part, sang and swung so alarming that myself thereat trembled and I had a continuation of the experiment as a good young citizens.

    I had the feeling that it is now soon "fatzen" could, and it sirrte quite a while after, when I had drained.

  24. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ The thought criminals @ all

    You and all many thanks for the many tips and links, which of course I could not yet consider all in detail.

    But I mean, here is an impressive collection of material zusammmengekommen now, so that anyone interested can continue their education to the point fast and versatile.

  25. Haarpo says:

    A very general idea:
    If you think about it, we have actually met any really new weapons since the second world war. But does that mean there is none? That's when all the funds that are put into the research - completely unlikely. Probably they are just hidden from us.
    I think it will come a time where comes out, what the guys behind our backs in our "democratic system" so everything planned and developed. and then those responsible will hopefully be brought to justice. When was this earthquake in Japan really controlled by a machine, man-caused, then it would be just evil, despicable, a war crime that must be punished.

  26. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Haarpo

    As a matter of fact.

    Very stringent, the input reflection.

    Too much really new weapons technology has not actually presented to us since 1945.

    When you consider that - even official - progress has otherwise made in science and technology since that seems in fact to strange.

    The conclusion I agree, of course, to also.

  27. Joe says:

    Here is an interesting link included his comments:
    http://www.theintelligence.de/index.php/wissenschaft/wissenschaft/2322-koennen-erdbeben-kuenstlich-ausgeloest-werden.html

  28. Joe says:

    Lookup:
    http://www.nexworld.tv/talk-shows/cafe-23/story/news/haarp-the-earth-as-waffe/

  29. Joe says:

    And here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npzvWGZfdho&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  30. the thought criminals says:

    @ Haarpo

    What the so plan everything for us?
    mankind would have only read the book of JPHoldren O)
    Obama's science advisor Holdren advocated forced sterilization,
    Forced abortion, the drinking water enforce a barren proofing agent, a global totalitarian dictatorship (Planetary Regime) etc.

    the mind-blowing book for eugenicists

    Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures used to control the population Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.

    Ecoscience:
    POPULATION,
    RESOURCES,
    ENVIRONMENT

    PAUL R. EHRLICH
    STANFORD UNIVERSITY

    ANNE H. EHRLICH
    STANFORD UNIVERSITY

    JOHN P. Holdren
    UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY

    WH FREEMAN AND COMPANY
    San Francisco

    Publication Information: Book Title: Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment. Contributors: Paul R. Ehrlich - author, Anne H. Ehrlich - author, John P. Holdren -Publisher: WH Freeman. Place of Publication: San Francisco.Publication Year: 1977

    Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment
    by Anne H. Ehrlich, Paul R. Ehrlich, John P. Holdren. 1052 pgs. (Online)
    http://www.questia.com/library/book/ecoscience-population-resources-environment-by-anne-h-ehrlich-paul-r-ehrlich-john-p-holdren.jsp

    Page 837: Compulsory abortions would be legal Indeed, it HAS BEEN Concluded did compulsory population-control laws, even laws Including Requiring compulsory abortion, Could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis Became Sufficiently severe to endanger the society.

    Page 786: Single mothers Should Have Their babies taken away by the government; or They Could be forced to have abortions One way to carry out this disapproval might also be to insist did all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption-especially Those born to minors, who are not gene rally Capable of caring for a child Properly alone. If a single mother really Wished to keep her baby, she might also be Obliged to go through adoption proceedings and demonstrate her ability to support and care for it. Adoption proceedings probably Send shoulderstand REMAIN more difficult for single people than for married couples, in recognition of the relative difficulty of raising children alone. It would even be Possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, Perhaps as on alternative to placement for adoption, DEPENDING on the society.

    Page 787-8: Mass sterilization of humans though drugs in the water supply is OK as long as it does not harm livestock Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion did Seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear <br> to be under development. To be acceptable, seeking a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be Uniformly effective, Despite Widely varying doses received by worth individuals, and Despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among worth individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock.

    Page 786-7: The government Could control women's reproduction by sterilizing them or implanting mandatory Either long-term birth control Involuntary fertility control ... A program of sterilizing women after Their second or third child, Despite the Relatively Greater difficulty of the surgery than vasectomy, might also be Easier to Implement than trying to sterilize men ... The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule That Could be implanted under the skin and removed When pregnancy is Desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule Could be implanted at puberty and might also be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.

    Page 838: The kind of people who cause "social deterioration" can be compelled to not have children If some worth individuals Contribute to general social deterioration by overproducing children, and if the need is compelling, They Can be required by law to exercise reproductive Responsibility just as They Can be required to exercise responsibility in Their resource-consumption patterns-providing They Are not denied equal protection.

    Page 838: Nothing is wrong or illegal about the government dictating family size
    In today's world, HOWEVER, the number of children in a family is a matter of profound public concern. The law Regulates other highly personal matters. For exampwe, no one june lawfully have more than one spouse at a time. Why should the law not be able to preventDefault a person from having more than two children?

    Page 942-3: A "Planetary Regime" should control the global economy and dictate by force the number of children allowed to be bornToward a Planetary Regime
    Perhaps ... Those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might also be developed into a Planetary Eventually Regime-sort of internationally super agency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime Could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international Implications exist. Ran thus the regime Could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, so but in seeking freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes did cross international boundaries or did discharge into the oceans. So The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade ting, Perhaps Including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and Including all food on the international market.The Planetary Regime might also be givenName responsibility for deterministic mining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within Their regional limits. Control of population size might also REMAIN the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the Agreed limits.

    Page 917: We will need to surrender national sovereignty to an international police force to armed If this could be accomplished, security might also be provided by on armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have this Recognized as goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism Seems, if anything, to be Increasing. The first step Necessarily Involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization to.

    Page 749: Pro-family and pro-birth attitudes are Caused by ethnic chauvinism
    Another related issue did Seems to Encourage a pronatalist attitude in many people is the question of the differential reproduction of social or ethnic groups. Many people SEEM to be possessed by fear did Their group 'may be outbred by other groups. White Americans and South Africans are worried there will be too many blacks, and vice versa. The Jews in Israel are disturbed by the high birth rates of Israeli Arabs, Protestants are worried about Catholics, and LBOs about Hausas. Obviously, if everyone tries to outbreed everyone else, the result will be catastrophe for all. This is another case of the "tragedy of the commons," Wherein the "commons" is the planet Earth. Fortunately, it Appears that, at least in the DCs Virtually all groups are exercising reproductive restraint.

    Page 944: As of 1977, we are facing a global overpopulation catastrophe did must be resolved at all costs by the year 2000 Humanity can not Afford to muddle through the rest of the twentieth century; the Risks are too great, and the stakes are too high. This 'may be the opportunity to choose our own load and our descendants' destiny. Failing to choose or making the wrong choices june lead to catastrophe. But it must never be forgotten did the right choices Could lead to a much better world.

    Source: http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

    .............................................................................................

    Full Context: High-res scans of all pages cited in this report
    Photographs of Ecoscience, inside and out

    *
    Other early publications include Energy (1971), Human Ecology (1973),Energy in Transition (1980), Earth and the Human Future (1986),Strategic Defences and the Future of the Arms Race (1987), BuildingGlobal Security Through Cooperation (1990), and Conversion of MilitaryR&D (1998).

    http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
    ………………………………………………………………………………………
    *
    P. Holdren is advisor to President Barack Obama
    for Science and Technology,
    Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST)
    Holdren was previously the Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, director of the Science, Technology, and Public Policy Program at the School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, and Director of the Woods Hole Research Center.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren

    John Holdren (* in Sewickley, Pennsylvania) ist ein US-amerikanischer Physiker, Teresa und John Heinz Professor für Umweltpolitik an der Kennedy School of Government der Harvard University. Holdren ist Leiter des ebenfalls an der Harvard University angesiedelten Science, Technology, and Public Policy Program am Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs .Im Dezember 2008 wurde bekannt, dass Holdren den US-Präsidenten Barack Obama wissenschaftlich beraten sollte.

    In the past, Holdren has advocated forcing pregnant women from certain social groups to abortion, thus preventing the proliferation in certain layers. Oder man könnte zur Bevölkerungskontrollen auch dem Trinkwasser ein unfruchtbar machendes Mittel zusetzen. Diese Position findet sich in einer Schrift Holdrens aus dem Jahre 1977 wieder, deren Aussagen jedoch jüngst von seinem Büro dementiert wurden. Auch vertritt er die Auffassung, daß selbst Neugeborene biologisch noch keine
    menschlichen Wesen seien, sondern sich erst durch Sozialisation und Ernährung zu solchen entwickelten.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren

    Obamas Wissenschaftsberater Holdren befürwortet Zwangssterilisation
    F. William Engdahl
    Barack Obama hat John Holdren zum neuen Wissenschaftsberater des Präsidenten gewählt, weil dieser zu den prominenten Verfechtern des längst diskreditierten Schwindels von der Klimaerwärmung zählt. Weniger bekannt über Holdren ist hingegen, dass er Ansichten zur Eugenik befürwortet, im Vergleich zu denen manche Nazi-Eugeniker fast humanitär wirken könnten. Unter anderem befürwortet Holdren die Zwangssterilisation von Paaren, die »zuviele« Kinder haben. Diesen Teil von Holdrens Wissenschaft kehren die liberalen US-Medien, die lieber die Mär von der Erderwärmung verbreiten, gern unter den Teppich. http://info.kopp-verlag.de/news/obamas-wissenschaftsberater-holdren-befuerwortet-zwangssterilisation.html

    »… dem Trinkwasser ein unfruchtbar machendes Mittel zusetzen …«

    Es folgt eine Zusammenfassung der Thesen seines Buches Ecoscience:

    – Frauen könnten auch gegen ihren Willen zur Abtreibung gezwungen werden;

    – Die Bevölkerung könnte insgesamt sterilisiert werden, indem man dem Trinkwasser oder Grundnahrungsmitteln ein Mittel zusetzt, das unfruchtbar macht;

    – Alleinstehenden Müttern oder Müttern im Mädchenalter sollte man gegen ihren Willen die Kinder wegnehmen und sie anderen Paaren übergeben, die sie großziehen;

    – Menschen, die zum »gesellschaftlichen Verfall« beitragen (also unerwünschten Personen), »kann man gesetzlich dazu verpflichten, bei der Reproduktion Verantwortungsbewusstsein walten zu lassen« – im Klartext: sie zur Abtreibung oder Sterilisation zu zwingen;

    – Ein nationenübergreifendes »Planetary Regime« (Planetarisches Regime) sollte die Kontrolle über die Weltwirtschaft übernehmen und auch über die intimsten Details des Lebens der Amerikaner bestimmen – mithilfe einer bewaffneten internationalen Polizeitruppe.

    Im selben Buch schreibt Holdren (S. 837): »… verbindliche Gesetze zur

    Bevölkerungskontrolle, sogar Gesetze zur Zwangssterilisation, könnten unter der geltenden Verfassung zulässig sein, falls die Bevölkerungskrise zu einer ernsten Bedrohung für die Gesellschaft werden sollte …«

    Darüber hinaus schlägt Holdren eine weltweite totalitäre Diktatur vor – er bezeichnet sie als »The Planetary Regime« –, die von oben ideale Bevölkerungszahlen diktieren soll: »… ein umfassendes Plantery Regime, [das] die Entwicklung, Verwaltung und Verteilung aller Rohstoffe überwachen könnte …, nicht nur in der Atmosphäre und den Ozeanen, sondern auch in Frischwasserreservoiren wie Flüssen und Seen«.

    Er setzt hinzu: »… dem Planetary Regime könnte man die Verantwortung übertragen, die optimale Bevölkerung für die Welt und jede einzelne Region zu bestimmen und auch vermittelnd einzugreifen, um die Anteile der einzelnen Länder innerhalb der Beschränkungen für die jeweilige Region festzulegen …Das Regime hätte bestimmte Vollmachten, die Einhaltung der vereinbarten Beschränkungen durchzusetzen.«

  31. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ der Gedankenverbrecher

    OMANNOMANN!

  32. der Gedankenverbrecher sagt:

    Quote
    David Keith (Geoengineer)
    ab min 07:34
    Es ist eine empirische Frage, wie die Leute tatsächlich darauf reagieren werden, wenn sie das erfahren.

    Was in aller Welt sprühen die da ? – deutsche Version
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwWz997dgc0

    Ich frage mich wie werdet Ihr darauf reagieren ?
    Diese geisteskranken “Soziopathen” sprühen weltweit
    seit über 10 Jahren 10 bis 20 Megatonnen Nanopartikel
    ua Aluminium-, Strontium- und Barium über unsere Köpfe.

    Die besprühen uns wie Ungeziefer !

    In Vitro Toxicity of Aluminum Nanoparticles in Rat Alveolar Macrophages
    Descriptive Note : Final rept. Jun 1993-Mar 2001

    http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA445568&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf

    Bei AAAS treffen wir wieder auf unseren geisteskranken Soziopathen John P. Holdren … derzeit bei US-Präsident Barack Obama der Berater für Wissenschaft und Technologie.
    Holdren ist Vorsitzender des Gremiums von Innovations:
    Technology | Governance | Globalization,
    eines vierteljährlich erscheinenden Magazins
    von MIT Press über “unternehmerische” Lösungen für globale Probleme.

    AAAS President John P. Holdren

    http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2007/0216am_holdren_address.shtml

    AAAS

    http://www.aaas.org/

    http://news.aaas.org/2011_annual_meeting/0220holdren-plenary-talk.shtml

    >>In 2025 das Wetter besitzen<> hat mit Wetter so nichts zu tun >>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xot1EI4s6j0

  33. CrisisMaven sagt:

    Ich habe versucht, das gesamte Ausmass der Japan-Atomkatastrophe und was sie fuer Europa bedeutet hier uebersichtlich zusammenzufassen:
    http://www.dasgelbeforum.de.org/forum_entry.php?id=208864

  34. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ ChrisisMaven

    Nice to hear from you!

    Leider war Dein Kommentar erst in der Spam-Meile versumpft.

    Zum Glück fand mein Admin ihn dann noch.

    LG

    Magnus

  35. István Szendi sagt:

    So genägigte Arme,

    Haarp ist Menschenprodukt in der Demokratie, mit der Untestützung des Grundgesetzes.
    Diese sind alle auch Menschenprodukte. Die Wähler sind einbezogen für die gewalttätige Militär.
    Die Deutsche sind damit für den III. WKzustimmendes Volk. Toll ? Wut ? Armes Nr. 1 Fahrzeugsherstel ” leeres Volk”.

    Herr Barack ist ein Mensch der in der USA Intervetionen Nr. ab 53, die nächste machte.
    Ohne politische Entscheidung gibt es kein Haarp. kein Chelmtrail.
    Jetzt ist tiefst Dunkel in meiner Kopfhaut.

    Damit mache ich nicht mehr weiter. Der Beweis ist mein jetztiger Schrift.

    Bitte, fürs Volk nicht viel schreiben, sondern die Zusammnenhänge verö
    ffentlichen.
    Diese Bande sind viel mehr schlimmer als die Drogenmaffia unter Volksbegeehrung.

    Es kommt schnell das Ende, das die Natur ohne Wissenschaftlersbande vorplante.
    Sei treu zur Natur. Du hast kein bessere Wahl.

    Sztyopka ab 24.03.2011

  36. Dude says:

    Folgendes sagt doch schonmal einiges..

    Quote:
    Was Wissenschaftler jetzt bestätigen, lässt aufhorchen: In den Tagen vor dem katastrophalen Tohoku-Beben, das die Stärke 9 erreichte, zeigte sich eine eklatante Temperaturerhöhung in der Ionosphäre. Die Maximalwerte seien wenige Stunden vor dem Beben erreicht gewesen, so erklärt Dimitar Ouzounov vom NASA-Goddard-Raumflugzentrum.
    [...]
    Nicht zuletzt stellt sich in diesem Kontext tatsächlich zunehmend die Frage, inwieweit umgekehrt eine atmosphärische Anregung zum Auslöser von Beben werden kann, wie unter anderem auch HAARP-Kritiker erklären. Immerhin, HAARP, angeblich ein rein ziviles und offenes Forschungsprojekt, ist eine Anlage, durch die ganz gezielt elektromagnetische Strahlung in die Ionosphäre geschickt wird, um sie aufzuheizen. Wenn die Kopplung besteht, kann sie dann in beide Richtungen wirken? Dass Erdbeben und Hochatmosphäre tatsächlich in einer physikalischen Wechselbeziehung zueinander stehen, das zumindest unterstreichen jetzt die neuen Erkenntnisse.
    http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/geostrategie/andreas-von-r-tyi/aufgeheizte-atmosphaere-vor-erdbeben.html

  37. Dude says:

    Nachtrag: Sage meinen Dank für den Schreibstil auf dieser Seite!
    Wenn die Themenlage nicht so ernst wäre, würd ich jetzt nicht mehr schreiben, da ich tot wär; zu Tode gelacht… :-)

  38. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Dude

    Ich habe den – leider zwischen DEBKA-”Beiträgen” hängenden – meiner Meinung nach ausgezeichneten Artikel von Rétyis auch gelesen und frage mich ebenfalls, wie der meinige schon deutlich machte, was da Masse ist.

    Die Frage, ob ein Phänomen in beide Richtungen wirken könne, ernstlich zu stellen, ist zuwenigst logisch.

    Dank auch noch für das Lob bezüglich meines Schreibstils: das höre ich natürlich gerne.

  39. Haap de Vaal sagt:

    Es gibt etliche sehr informative Videos zum Thema ULF/ELF-Anlagen wie HAARP, LOIS, MUOS etc.

    In einem wird erzählt, wie sie mit 20 Watt-Anlagen Erdöl- und Erdgas-Lagerstätten finden, weil jede geologische Formation eine eigene Resonanzfrequenz hat.

    Im selben Film wird Nicola Tesla nachgesagt, dass er die Erde sprengen könnte, wenn er ihre Resonzfrequenz kennen würde.

    Es gibt auch ein Beispiel in diesem Film, wie sie mit einem Basslautsprecher bei geringer Lautstärke und tiefen Frequnenzen einen “Erdrutsch” verursachen.
    Und es wird die Frage gestellt, was passsieren würde, wenn man statt einigen Watt eine Mrd. Watt Leistung zur Verfügung hätte.

    Haarp ist sicherlich eine der gefährlichsten Monsterwaffen, die die Betreiber des größten Terrorstaates der Erde, USA, zur Zeit im Terrorkoffer haben.

    Natürlich ist die Erzeugung von Erdbeben nur eine von vielen Einsatzmöglichkeiten. Haarp kommt auch sehr gerne mit seinen Kumpels Chem und Nano Trails daher. Zusammen sind sie eine unschlagbare Gang.

    Die Menschen sind heute in der Lage wie wahrscheinlich noch nie in der Geschichte, alles Leben auf diesem Planeten komplett auszurotten durch vielerlei Techniken und die Erde selbst in Stücke zu sprengen. Wie ich sie kenne, werden sie es “ausprobieren” müssen. Auch um das Gefühl zu erleben, was für ein Gefühl es sein mag, der einzige Übeoslebende zu sein. Kammnixmachen.

  40. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Haap de Vaal

    Könntest Du Links auf entsprechende Videos einstellen?

  41. Dude sagt:

    Da ist offenbar was durch die Finger der Zensoren bei N-TV geruscht… sehr sehenswert!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RC8Mj3RSgr8

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