I just revisited the comment strand of the net pretty good newspaper and need to determine how a participant that occurs with real names, continues towards reduced and insulted on his CV and even his appearance of a Nickfeigling.
I know this phenomenon from personal experience, although I am not yet in the privilege - for how long? - To have been at least not yet publicly vilified because of my facial scars in a similar manner by any anonymous.
"I watch you times the ass at what he looks like, that says it all about what he thinks and writes!"
Something like this, perhaps a little convoluted, it's a day to itself in places that you should look for moral else where also honest, intelligent people express themselves.
However: No call to order, or rarely one as before by me, is done by other pages, if a face and a nameless nachsuchbare any time in the network person viciously degrades, the most cowardly way possible.
These kinds of riffraff must be fought. Ad hoc.
I myself am not so squeamish that this kind constituted much to me; nevertheless this is not only unfair, but underground.
For there is no equality of arms: The sneaky creeper has any means to open throwing Antretenden with dirt; the daubed in turn is doomed, he does not want to appear thin-skinned to endure this on to ignore it, to react with at most mild ripostes.
That is, with respect, shit.
If two BWA pull each other through the mud, if you will, to a certain extent abuse, or even just a rough verbal attacks - not why? - Which can provide some entertainment, even sometimes have cognitive value: But please both publicly.
I really need at this point bemüßigen itself to bemäßigen me not to take up a sweeping old German word sweethearts, what the regular phenomenon whose Perpetratoren and even sufferer arrives.
A thought has matured increasingly clear in me, "Nicks" should be not forbidden, because there are known reasons for the use of such; but it should at least penetrate the consciousness of the general public that basically only the names are with clear net first-class citizens, as indicated, open, honest, always vulnerable.
When the codename Fritzen mutually feces around the ears lubricate, please, up to a certain limit.
Aliases Fritzen, however, the real people seek to damage out of the darkness, I will henceforth even more direct and sharper attack than before.
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I thank you for the kind words. Indeed, an imbalance occurs when one anonymous writer faces and this has nothing, as the intention to hurt anyone. Conversely, one would even debate not as sharp if you knew what real people standing on the other side. I regret also that the so often quoted courage under remains in the form of an intervention to moderate the offender in 99%. That leaves me sometimes despair of humanity and gives birth: hardening.
@ Tanja Krienen
It's now even went well, by the ef-editors used by way of example.
You could say it was a small victory recorded for those who show her face.
As I had just set my article on the subject, I could see that there is the right thing in my opinion did: beautiful thing.
Nevertheless, it must be noted, so as you say it, that in 99% of cases not engaged: It should go without editing, in fact, simply the oft-quoted moral courage out.
But it's a start.
I'm staying off the topic.
Regards
Magnus
Unfortunately, you can not compare with the real world thing. There you have the degree of control over his spoken word, its reach and its recipients (if one disregards the shameful official interception of the telephone line). Anyone aware of in the real world its texts (usually professionally) published weighs his words carefully before he releases - in the minds of his more or less large readership. Beautiful old simple world.
On the web, the boundaries between private expression and journalism are blurring. Even the most succinct and perhaps thoughtless comment, when he then took place under real names are read for all time from every person in the world. But not only of the people but also by specialized machines! Address dealers, fraudsters, intelligence, identity thieves, operators booming people search engines and more diverse, largely covert Profiler rub in every real names commentator hands. Here is so far only the tip of the huge Einberges to see. As site administrator I can see in log files, which search for an armada of remarkable "bots" and "spiders" often by the minute any website in the world after any recoverable.
In the real world translated dispensing a reader comment is not compare remotely with a personal interview, but not one with a conventional letter which, although it may stir up a lot of dust in individual cases, but which is forgotten after a few weeks and now the highest yet in dusty archive decayed. No, translated into the real world delivering a reader comment is about so similar that one carves his message on his home wall for all times visible in the stone.
I can only feel sorry for the naivety of many "digital immigrants" to insist on real names. For they know not what they do.
And as another example, this really happened to me a few days ago myself. At some current event I was on Twitter from a harmless, but ironic comment, but torn out of the context of my accounts a very different sense results. During the current reporting on the subject of the television station N-TV brought this matter reactions from the network and thereby blinded to my horror just those of a chirped with expression for several seconds in large size. Of course, with my name. What was I glad I am one of those maligned here "aliases Fritzen". Although I was pleased that even N-TV reads my tweets, but it also showed me abruptly, as uncontrollable and unpredictable every message is that I send into the grid out.
@ Foehnix
Interesting aspects, thank you for this!
However, I think that we (including google and other "private" organizations, because that is the most powerful in the world and works with more than just bordering certainly on the side of the CIA, whether like it or not) before the nice services first, anyway can not really hide effectively aliases behind an IP-address.
A potential employer normal course does not have the ability to search the entire network according to Nicks and IPs to check, one so that in this connection the use of a deck name may of course be prudent and appropriate.
But: All mankind is so easily can not imprison, and the more people occur with real names, the more they protect each other, bestzen public space credibly and with open sights.
Furthermore, would the pseudonym Fritz mob of infecting the network in more than just annoying way with insults, bogus talks about multiple nicks, each variety Trollerei, often paid for or otherwise base motives, more and more behind, aufträten the more people with real names.
The quality of yes fortunately many well-attended, sometimes quite high standard betexteten comment strands of blogs and web pages would benefit enormously, even more serious people see themselves encouraged to enter meaningful and interesting in their keyboard as well as around the world, when they characterized not so would go much rabble.
I therefore believe that those in power, probably not only we both do not like particularly, have much more reason to fear real names to rejoice because their proliferation.
The first were a couple of times spontaneous thoughts: The theme is, as already mentioned, further care.
I would love to hear your opinion about these views here and upload expressly also for explanatory contradiction.
Kind regards
Magnus
@ Foehnix
Just for clarification / info
Your second comment overlapped with my answer to your first, ie has not yet been considered by me in it.
Regards
Magnus
Short intermediate Info
Regarding the above spiders I've just looked closely. On a server I run several websites and because the crate constantly went to his knees, I once looked more closely, what is all so crawls and flies. In fact, these animals made up a large part of the data traffic, the access to the pages. So I have a spider trap "Spider Trap" installed, which can identify and lock out those bots at least, gross negligently against the rule ("robots.txt") violated. Within about a year, so I (spy bots so) went well over 3000 of these arachnoid into the trap.
@ Foehnix
I wanted to provoke with the word "pseudonym Fritzen" certainly, but of course was not about all present with Nick as loose journeymen and scoundrels.
As I said above also, that there are quite respectable reasons for using a cover name in many cases.
However, I welcomed it if more people the courage to clear names aufbrächten: they were thus something that they really have the ass for it in the pants to stand by what you say.
This could thus of course also more weight.
Consider this, as is still trying in the sheep media, with all the tricks to make the whole blogosphere ridiculous: the many pompous, bad pranksters, bawling-out, sucka and trolls who hide in comment strings behind their nicks, play them while my believe in the powerful hands.
Regards
@ Foehnix
In addition, people who write under real names, hampered by all these sinister figures regularly in their legitimate work, insulted, annoyed, so many lose interest, cut off some interesting discussion thread, some thoughts strand is completely perverted.
Quite a few of them are paid.
I wrote it so similar already elsewhere: hacks are cheaper than tanks.
Already for 25 million euros, which extends the Yanks in Afpak hardly a day for fuel, you can buy up a lot of riff-raff with network connection.
And you do it obviously.
This may also be a reason that we at zeitgeist here Comments are not simply leave "shoot through", but make us work, every unlock individually, very generous; but contributions that seek only herumzuranzen or to place self-promotion under ridiculous pretext to destroy a rational discussion, will be deleted without mercy "uncensored" even for me.
Magnus Wolf Goeller
"However, I believe that to think of the nice service ..."
Since I can largely agree. Of course you can Google largely deal with enough knowledge and will. But the "Services" monitor probably as good as any communication, especially the one service that Google do to have.
"But: All mankind is so easy can not imprison ..."
My fears begin already with scenarios that are a few sizes smaller. It may be true that a confident crowd with open visor monitor state Repressionstendezen counteracts to some extent. But government intervention, I think for the time being not for the biggest threat.
But how was the real name of target are actually achieved? More than a finger-wagging I can not remember one. Highest there is still the possibility of coercive measures that every conservative Law & Order-Internet print-outs would drive the tears of joy in his eyes ...
"Furthermore, would the pseudonym Fritz mob ..."
Truly! But probably only the very extremely stupid mob could be deterred. The little smarter rascal would make a "real names" doctrine shamelessly exploited. Who knows even if the name really genuine, or for example a Hasbara is -Erfindung? So the "real names" doctrine writers could weigh with an open visor in the unjustified confidence to communicate with real people and they might tempt you to divulge confidential information. Your friend Idur Smith's you might kindly holiday tips for your Greece vacation, but in reality will only find out when he can break into your house.
If the political aspect would be the only one you would be fully legal. I'm certainly not paranoia freak, but try to weigh only the various aspects.
Incidentally, the issue of anonymity is an old and controversial Internet-topic in general. It is clear that in the anonymity can be operated all sorts of shameful, but that is no argument. You might as well ask, to furnish every work, every home, office and sacristy with surveillance cameras to prevent robberies or domestic crimes. The arguments were weighed a thousand times in other places and I always come back to the conclusion that anonymity in particular in the Internet should be a fundamental right.
Here is a nice article on Friday anonymity is freedom .
@ Foehnix
I'm starting now times from behind:
"The arguments were weighed a thousand times in other places and I always come back to the conclusion that anonymity on the Internet should be a fundamental right in particular."
I agree with you entirely.
I am also not keen to adopt a clear rule names to see the other hand, also I resisted vehemently for the reasons set forth by you.
You spoke also of "moralizing", the course also has a little doubtful about.
How about instead of more indicative encouragement?
I think more in that direction.
Even simply the production of insight in terms of my previously presented arguments.
Perhaps also the courage that can grow out of courage even more courage, a fear spiral opposite movement.
That this could not go, I'll believe it when I'm dead, and then I probably certainly no earthly faith more relevance.
Your objection that one could be so deceived and ripped off again by seated bill could clear names, see especially enticed into revealing Locked, I take very seriously.
But life is a risk, and nothing is known only death.
Some people learn the hard way is there to pay, sure, but is it not perhaps on the whole worth?
I thank you in any case expressly again for the many inspiring thoughts, looking forward at any time even more.
The thing I will probably, reworked and made clear, try in a second part structured, refinished, hopefully with even more weigh values thoughts soon do it again here on the topic.
Hau it, wasdekannst! I have now taken a lot.
Best wishes
Magnus
@ Foehnix
Friday's article, I had not now turn fed into my answer. Your note just discovered.
Magnus Wolf Goeller
"But life is a risk, and nothing is known only death."
Here we go again - that I say whatever! The complicated life can these tend to be pretty handy wisdom compress:-))
"How about instead of more indicative of encouragement?"
I am skeptical as to whether the lot brings. Who is on practical jokes or misdeeds from, will still find a way to reach his goal.
I've got another tip that the Internet ancients had written ages ago in the first Netiquetten:
Do not feed the trolls!
Even these pioneers developed the habit of trolls not (with communication / attention) to feed. In some forums throws them the way instead fishes too.
It really works! I've done it myself in another blog habit. There are several camouflaged Hasbara trolls and goblins similar, but also people who have to say clever romp. So I have got used to just ignore the troll posts and not read only. This requires some practice and discipline, but the discussion makes then much more joy. And when holding the majority of debaters from the trolls give up quickly. If they do not get attention, they soon lose interest.
@ Foehnix
Malevolent one will of course not stop with appeals.
And of course, also important is what you say below, namely the obliteration of so-called trolls.
Nevertheless, I believe that the encouragement Decent, always perform with real names, does not have to be unsuccessful.
Immediately to achieve a broad impact, to this blog alone is not enough of course; but, who knows, maybe click yes suddenly, also thanks to your help, 500,000 people here ...
Joking aside (but who knows, a "bullet" is never excluded): right thoughts always could spread wondrously fast when their time came.
I am not a dreamer, but consider it possible that, for example, any pirate or someone else and someone else and yet intelligent system to carry the thing and this then bears fruit piece by piece.
I trusted not in the least potential power of the word, so I did not need to write the same.
You I have not yet convinced it must not be so; but last night told me at least one on the phone, he would now only occur with real names, because he had had enough of the fear spiral, my arguments would have made sense to him.
With Hosenscheißerei (please refer the now not for you, so it is not meant) you really would not.
After all, ever one, and not the worst, indeed.
Hi @ All!
Very interesting ... as tiresome as controversial ... theme, in which I simply unasked here once would like to engage shortly. Dictates of courtesy, I would like to turn first to the lady in the round.
TanjaKrienen
All sad but true - and it is indeed very questionable if such Hetz trolls in many forums or comment areas usually relatively unmolested can wreak havoc. But since it is an exception which proves the rule, if either courageous panelists or moderators assist the affected users effectively, and above all in the sense of a neat and constructive discussion culture, remains a priority to be aimed at their own initiative (if you do not want to be discouraged) actually only their own resilience. - Or the WECHSL to sites / forums where the responsibility of the operator respectively the moral courage of the User / inside is slightly refined. (Although there - except in enclosed areas - is hardly possible, the occurrence of notorious troublemakers or hired to completely stop). But, as I know to report from personal experience, it can nevertheless hardly get worse, but only get better!
Foehnix & Magnus
Your discussion was very worth reading, leave me but "unfortunately" not much left that I could add as a separate opinion. After I read the entire exchange, I can only say that both sides positive and again reflecting on the Internet everyday arguments were put forward against which it is difficult to raise objections ... except, perhaps, that the "silver bullet" (as usual) somewhere in the center is likely to be.
From the initial spark, so the core of the main items considered here, Magnus is used with regard to the problem in terms of pseudonym and in terms of the way as the associated certificate anonymity of many discussion destroyers or habitual (not infrequently paid) trolls certainly agree . Otherwise, it is also true that pseudonyms often a real (partially also pseudo) have protective function in different ways. - With regard to the Consultative handling unequivocally identified trolls, in my opinion were addressed all reasonable and practicable methods.
In this respect, if I may put it that time so unimaginative, you have - each of his individual point of view - both right. As long as you are not exploited the use of pseudonyms in the identified negative way is, in principle no objection. On the other hand, the "public" of panelists is also important - at least among people who therefrom may even want to derive viable alternatives and / or troubleshooting participate genuine interest in each topic of serious discussion and ...
For active writer or write activists giving up the case rather a placebo protection equal to end anonymity in my opinion is even inevitable. - If you want to move something or even change for the better, that should already do with his real name, which proves that he is to what he tries other people about - and as an aside nothing to hide (which can be proved best when in addition to the written exchange offers also the possibility to personal contacts / uses).
So you see, in order to shorten the whole thing a little bit, it always ultimately it arrives, what's intentions and objectives to move around on the internet ... but has since operating their own blogs or pages undeniably something to do with purpose-journalism, one should without ifs and buts opt for the occurrence as a real person. (Again, the exception proves the rule!)
However ... there are now and then, however, cases where a pseudonym is also used to protect the targeted discussions, and people involved ... a variant - was not addressed in your discussion - if I have not read about it. - I would like to explain this last throw and my only real supplement the discussion so that some of his ungetarntes occurrence thanks to the / one way or another rushing User / in already repented and make unwelcome acquaintance with the defamatory and sometimes even lasting reputational effect of targeted internet bullying had ... then such a person remain only two possibilities:
either they become isolated and supported on their own website one (which is equivalent to the fact that they are beyond any purposeful discussion and usually must give up your goals!) -
or they used a pseudonym, on the one hand continue to maintain the active and cooperative exchanges with other self, footloose and fancy free thinking people (and possibly also the own ideals continue to actively represented) to be able, without otherwise compromising the discussions by their "battered reputation" ...
This is also a reason why one can not lead to all sides convincing and satisfactory conclusion the theme "real name or pseudonym" ... only when all serious reasons, which the proponents - not connected in one with unfair or simply destructive ulterior motives, actively operated Internet usage - give only seemingly opposing views, observed and respected, one can find a reasonable coexistence, use and expanding continuously.
I hope this was not too confusing now ... but I think with "something good will" you will be able to decipher what I was trying to express !?
If not ... in the course of the weekend I hope to stop by again. If my remarks have caused any confusion, please send me a request, I will try to answer next time happy.
In this sense,
Regards
Adalbert
@ Adalbert
Thank you!
The aspect that someone not a Nick At length with fear before any employer or client, but simply to partecipate in a game even further, since his real name was corrupted over the measure, it would therefore be unacceptable or difficult to make due, under this to continue, we had not yet considered, in fact.
As you said, yes Foehnix has also performed very well in many respects right and his views.
I want to sprinkle some fun now and hereby give the foundation of the movement of "real names Knight" ("knight" sounds still have a bit to Adel) known.
In English, then "Knights of Real Names", French "Chevaliers de Noms Reels" (hopefully my late Fränkisch here is correct, if not, please corrigendum), Spanish "Caballeros de los Nombres verdaderos" etc.
I ask for translations into Japanese "Samurai ..." Finnish "Haikokukonen ..." (which was now without a plan), etc. etc.
Maybe the movement is so attractive in that they form a kind of Don Quijotesken adopt painting, half sad and ridiculous heroic, those who their Dulcinea, the beautiful from the village of truthfulness to like about the endless, strewn by highwaymen fields of this wide World ride through forests full of tramps and malicious dwarfs, in this time of nameless bullies.
Today I might not make it if necessary travel arrangements after la Mancha (so to speak) to write the actual foundation to satire, but at least it itches me already in the fingers.
Kind regards
Magnus
@ All
The real names knightly order is founded.
The noble task brooked no further delay.
See yonder in "The Knight's real name".
Morning rides the Knight of the scarred figure with his two selbstgezeugten not always exemplary obedient squire with changing giant steel Rosinantes to the Baltic Sea.
There, too, there may be encountering adventures.
Hello Magnus,
beautiful that I yet could still contribute something constructive, even if the previous discourse had already been very interesting and most aspects had comprehensively covered.
And yes, the idea as a movement called "real names Knight" has something! I shall be delighted me from the forecasted rate work to heart on occasion and look beyond, if I may from time to time even contribute something.
For the moment (and hopefully not too late) I would first like to wish you and your loved ones a wonderful and relaxing holiday. Subsequently, sees and reads it back certainly!
Best wishes back
Adalbert
PS:
… das kommt davon, wenn man seine Seiten nicht regelmäßig aktualisiert und dann blind drauflos kommentiert … natürlich werde ich mir die Gründungsschrift jetzt augenblicklich einverleiben …
Nochmals schönen Urlaub und bis die Tage
Adalbert
Yet what about:
"Who knows even if the real name is really real?"
http://www.n-tv.de/technik/Facebook-girlfriend-is-spy-article1191496.html
That's what I meant. The example shows how highly educated people and world renowned companies go row by row the real names chimera on the glue.
What real names say so from? As much as pseudonyms: Nothing!
@ Foehnix
Have the product once flew over: They were all so stupid to tell Confidential, without having learned even one person ever know directly. This is stupid.
Real names are by no means a panacea and can be driven so fast and loose; yet I am confident that mechanisms be found, this, to create a greater awareness of the problem, especially when you could develop for reasons of lived moral courage, the preservation of network freedom, greater movement here, think quite possible and consider this option for a good way for many; perhaps moves as front hand not much; then of course it hails a little mockery; what the heck.
(The sentence is a bit on the pleonastic and erschwurbelt, but I let him just so are, because today is Sunday.)
Anyway, I'm sure intuitively that such a move could bring changes, we still do not dare group dynamics, to estimate vermeinen entirely.
Maybe it's pipe dreams.
It was not so then: a lively discussion arise, although the issue had to appear as long since finished chewed - but has, in my view here - if you still look at the so interwoven neighboring strand.
I think only because the idea of a plain name an unrealistic movement, something betüttelte or stupid, idiotic even was when I show them to be very clearly appear.
Regards
Vielleicht ist bei dem Wunsch der edlen Klarnamenritter auch eine gehörige Portion Nostalgie dabei. Früher war ja bekanntlich alles besser. Ich kann mich noch dunkel erinnern, damals traf man Menschen auch noch im realen Leben und die kannte man wirklich oder man kannte jemanden, der sie kennt oder man konnte sich eine Visitenkarte geben lassen oder sogar den Ausweis zeigen lassen. So entstanden echte soziale Netzwerke – die Avatar-Massen, die heute diese Bezeichnung tragen, verdienen es eigentlich gar nicht, so genannt zu werden. Twitter-Profis werben zB für Konzepte, mit denen man in paar Wochen Tausende von “Freunden” gewinnt, da fehlt einfach jede Parallele zum nicht-virtuellen Leben. Trotzdem drängt uns der “Zeitgeist” immer mehr zur Teilnahme an der digitalen Welt und er zwingt uns damit auch zur Revision herkömmlicher Konzepte. Beispiel Contentindustrie: die können noch so auf die Tränendrüse drücken oder mit juristischer Verfolgung drohen, das ändert nichts daran, dass sich die technische Möglichkeiten grundlegend verändert haben. Über kurz oder lang werden sie neue, Konzepte erfinden müssen, die sich nicht mehr an den Realitäten vorbei lügen, sondern ihnen ins Auge sehen und die kreative neue Wege beschreiten. Genauso wird es auch für Diskussionen ausgefeiltere technische Vorrichtungen geben, die den Trollen das Leben schwer machen. Eine ganz interessante Einrichtung fand ich zB kürzlich irgendwo bei Yahoo. Dort konnte man Kommentare bewerten (Daumen hoch/runter) und die ungewöhnlich miesen Beiträge wurden ausgeblendet (jedoch nicht gelöscht). Noch nicht perfekt, aber ein Ansatz…
@ Foehnix
Eine obligatorische Forumsanmeldung mit Klarnamen hätte immerhin den Vorteil, dass man jemanden schonmal entlang des Geschriebenen kennen lernen könnte, je nach gewünschtem Tempo auch in Ebriefkontakt käme, zum Telfon griffe oder sich bei Gelegenheit auch bald mal wirklich träfe.
Sehr schnell, so kann ich mir das auch vorstellen, ergäben sich auch Grüppchen von Leuten, die sich einfach mal zu Fünft sehen wollen, vielleicht sogar ein bereits im Netz angesprochenes Projekt oder eine Veranstaltung realiter zu planen oder anzuschieben.
Jedenfalls wird es sehr viel schneller im positiven Sinne “menscheln” können, wenn sich reale Personen gegenübertreten.
Selbstverständlich muss das Ganze auch nicht unter dem Signet “Die Klarnamenritter” in Gang kommen: mag ja Manchem etwas zu altverstaubt und quijotesk klingen, sei es auch knapp und griffig.
Ich freue mich auf bessere Namen.
@ Magnus Wolf Goeller
Eine obligatorische Forumsanmeldung (und zwar egal, ob mit oder ohne Klarnamen) würde va auch die wahllose Verwendung beliebiger Namen (Klarnamen wie auch Pseudonyme) zumindest deutlich erschweren. Das würde auch die Arbeit der Administratoren erleichtern; die können so zB notorische Störenfriede leichter identifizieren und ermahnen oder ggf. verbannen. Gute Foren bieten da ja bereits viele Möglichkeiten. Anders sieht es bei den meisten Blogs aus.
Allerdings habe ich keine Lust, mich in Dutzenden von Blogs, Foren und Netzwerken mit meinen ganzen persönlichen Daten anzumelden. Datensparsamkeit wird ja immer wichtiger, deshalb warte ich schon lange darauf, dass sich OpenID endlich durchsetzt. Außerdem würde ich mir einen vertrauenswürdigen OpenID-Provider wünschen, vielleicht den CCC oder so. Dort wären dann unsere persönlichen Daten relativ sicher gespeichert und mit dem Account könnte man sich in Blogs/Foren anmelden, ohne dass man jedem seine Daten geben muss.
OAuth mit Twitter-Account zeigt bereits, wie einfach das Anmelden sein kann. Auf Seiten von Drittanbietern klickt man zB auf “Login via Twitter OAuth”, dann wird man auf ein Twitter-Popup geführt, wo man die Authentifizierungen mit einem Klick bestätigt und schon ist man auf der Drittanbieter-Seite angemeldet – mit nur zwei Mausklicks. Allerdings scheint OpenID hier sicherer zu sein, da es speziell für Identitätsmanagement konzipiert wurde.
http://www.heise.de/developer/artikel/Identity-Management-Authentifizierungsdienste-mit-OpenID-227202.html
http://www.heise.de/developer/artikel/Autorisierungsdienste-mit-OAuth-845382.html
Magnus
Das meinte ich mit verpassen. Diese Diskussion hier habe ich erst jetzt gelesen, da sie zu weit hinten war.
Somit habe ich auch die Gründung der Bewegung mit dem Namen “Klarnamenritter” verpasst. Ist aber meiner nicht ganz unüblich, denn ich habe sogar fast meine eigene Geburt damals verpasst.
Sie mussten mich schneiden raus, weil ich nicht den Weg aus der Scheide raus wollte. Ich mag eben die Enge nicht. Brauche Platz um mich frei zu fühlen und daran hat sich bis heute nichts geändert.
“je nach gewünschtem Tempo auch in Ebriefkontakt käme”
Das habe ich schon mehrmals mit Dir versucht, leider warte ich auf Deine Antwort auf diesem Wege immer noch. Nur um mal Klartext zu reden.
Mit dem Adalbert Naumann habe ich schon mehrmals telefoniert, obwohl ich nicht gerne telefoniere. Ich schreibe lieber oder treffe mich lieber persönlich mit jemand.
Werde ich in den Orden der Klarnamenritter aufgenommen? Muss man dafür eine besondere Prüfung ablegen?
Einen anderen Namen fände ich für das Klarnamenforum bzw. diese Gruppierung aber besser. So was wie “Wir sind echt!” oder “Echtzeitlose”.
Viele Grüße EN aka KJM