HAARP weapon as a natural disaster?

Even at the recent Japan earthquake, evaporated, the rumor mill, "HAARP", the huge Elektromagnetikanlage the U.S. military in Alaska, was in a position - has been and already used to the effect - earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, produce atmospheric disturbances, etc..

The fact is first time that there is the facility, she certainly was not cheap and that they eat to no discernible open reasonable purposes energy as a whole other big city.

That the military weapons systems operating normally, operates more huge plants for military purposes, research for more effective warfare, is arguably self-evident to those who prefer to know nothing, because knowledge is known to affect sleep.

What is so mysterious to turn this complex?

(To maintain the abundant suspicion, close ties to the U.S. war machine, also think about how they are not reading daily in the newspaper Bild, not averse in principle) a physicist I interviewed once about me reckoned before hastily that there potentially radiated energy already measured on a small volcanic eruption nachgerade is ridiculously low, how much compared to a vanishing only medium earthquakes.

Therefore, he reasoned, trade it in this case but just spinning around to claim that HAARP can cause earthquakes and the like, is scientifically untenable nonsense.

Quite convincing (a few bars of natural science, even physics, biology as a compulsory subject for study, I have also enjoyed a time) I could not even then his bill, which was referred to the magnitude undoubtedly correct, however.

Let us take two examples from the chemical activation energy that is necessary to trigger a violent reaction may be relatively small.

Analogously, one could have found a mechanism to initiate the discharge of seismic and geothermal potential.

Furthermore: A catalyst lowers the activation energy that accelerates a reaction that consumes itself is not even here

So we should not necessarily think only along the laws of classical mechanics or electrical engineering.

On the other hand, it does not help much, easy to believe this and that HAARP could

Faith belongs in church.

I would be very grateful if people who know more than I do of electromagnetics, the story would illuminate even factually.

I am not opposed to taking theses, speculation will have even said that themselves - or else they were called not so - can not prove it yet compelling.

But would be helpful remarks, which channeled not only on astrological conjectures, ostensibly from Aldebaran, or even from beyond the grave Tesla cloudy allusions are based, but in some - even if it is initially still so amazing, complex, barely comprehensible way - bring potentially further.

Relevant links are also welcome.

Because that may also like to refer to pages that do not meet the desired requirements absolutely excellent here.

If you like, again, Jesus already knew everything, and it is evident in the Bible.

And of course I do not care where it comes from a piece of information, whether from the Dog Star, an astral plane, ambiterrestrischen aliens or the mating habits of the bonobo deduced, provided they are suitable only continue somehow.


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38 Responses to "HAARP weapon as a natural disaster?"

  1. AllaBaba says:

    . "Weather as a weapon" - Documentary on N-TV from 6.2, also on Youtube; HAARP principle is explained there as well.

    HAARP then works as earthquakes trigger when an ELF wave hits are live layers of earth, as it were drops that can bring the camel's back, as shown in the movie based on a model.

  2. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ AllaBaba

    What do you lead would correspond exactly my activation energy analogy from chemistry.

  3. AllaBaba says:

    In nonequilibrium systems - and that is Japan, because it lies on a tectonic fault zone - ELF waves act as a catalyst.

    However, we already knew - even before HAARP - that there is an enormous risk of building nuclear power plants in Japan, and she has designed so that they - allegedly - (want) to a thickness of 7.5 quake intact.

    What we see is what was previously known for a long time as a potential scenario. The incredible stupidity of the people lies in the fact of death against all reason, technologies to fund and build.

    The earth shakes down now, the people of the earth, because their driving is un-bearable ... .. Stupidity is punished with death ...

  4. AllaBaba says:

    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/pandora/haarp.html

    Here you will find a lot of detailed information.

    The technology of the U.S. military were not securely install pure spirit of research in Alaska, it is possible to start.

  5. Infonaut says:

    You must not dig so deep to find out more about HAARP. A glance at Wikipedia is enough: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAARP .

    Amazingly, there is also that for some years not only in Alaska is like antenna systems. To those listed in Wikipedia, there are unconfirmed reports found not only more in Russia (for example in Siberia) and the United Kingdom, Brazil, Australia, China, India and - you believe it - Japan!

    In the ASR blog is a plot of alleged HAARP activity is shown to demonstrate the similarities with the earthquake in Japan. Unfortunately, the map legend and without labeling, even without source ( http://is.gd/3tJp50 - at the very bottom end of the article). What do you think?

    It also remains open whether the above mentioned devices are synchronized, or rather used against each other. If the Second would be the case and HAARP play a role in the current disaster is playing, who could be interested in a "downfall" of Japan have?

  6. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ AllaBaba

    In fact, we already knew when they built the local dirt bucket - without HAARP or the like - earthquake, whose strength lay by a multiple of 7.5.

    "The incredible stupidity of the people lies in the fact of death against all reason, technologies to fund and build."

    That's it.

    I have just learned that one of the old tub was just durchschmorenden since October last year, even ingeniously lined with plutonium.

    Ironically, the oldest and abgefackteste part.

    One would hardly believe it.

  7. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Infonaut

    Good question, as always, that after the "cui bono".

    In this respect, the question is, why those who want to harm Japan to such a degree, could indirectly here.

  8. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Infonaut

    I guess the "gold and silver people" will probably complain about this catastrophe barely ...

    Similarly, the wind power and solar energy industry, oil and gas people, the pharmaceutical industry ...

  9. AllaBaba says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VX0JvpW5q0&feature=player_embedded # at = 50

    Fulford asked the Minister of Finance of Japan, Heizo Takenaka, "Why do they have handed control of the Japanese financial system to a group of American and European oligarchs?" The response from Takenaka was

    "Because Japan was threatened by an earthquake machine!"

    See also: All smoke and mirrors: Is there a

  10. MATZE says:

    HELLO! To read something from the European parliament! (About HAARP and other unweltverändernden techniques), although from 1995 but it says black on white that HAARP is capable of doing! ...

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides
    / GetDoc.do? PubRef =- / / EP / / TEXT + REPORT + A4 1999-0005 +0 + DOC + XML + V0 / / EN

  11. MATZE says:

    PS the link plus the entire rest of the copy behind it in the browser then you land on the document. (Roughly in the middle is about HAARP)

  12. Heidi says:

    I think that HAARP was not to establish one with known physics or other science education.
    This would not meet this plant.
    What do we know about frequencies, waves, oscillations, and all the niceties, which can be achieved with an extremely low cost extremely high efficacy. It swings easily on the destination, etc. ...
    We know too little about the inside power transmission facilities at other levels in the soil, etc. in the ionosphere

  13. the criminal thought says:

    must see! mind-blowing documentary!

    Stratospheric sulfate aerosols of the confirmation (Geoengineering)
    For more than 10 years, the spray aluminum, barium, strontium
    Discussion of the responsible scientist AAA
    The Royal Society, September 2009
    (John Holdren! The Board)

    What in the world since the spray? - German version

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwWz997dgc0

    P. Holdren is advisor to President Barack Obama
    for Science and Technology

    Ecoscience:
    POPULATION,
    RESOURCES,
    ENVIRONMENT

    John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

    Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population

    http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

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    HAARP
    U.S. patent no. 4,686,605
    ----------------------------
    United States Patent
    4,686,605
    Lund East
    August 11, 1987
    ----------------------------
    Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere,
    ionosphere, and / or magnetosphere

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14978672/HAARP-USPatentNo4686605

    REPORT
    14th January 1999
    PE 227.710/end A4-0005/99
    on Environment, Security and Foreign Policy
    Rapporteur: Mr. Olsson, Committee on Environment, Public Health and Consumer Protection
    ("Hughes" procedure)
    Committee on Foreign Affairs, Security and Defence Policy
    Rapporteur: Ms. Theorin

    see> use of military resources for the benefit of the environment

    T. whereas, that the military continues research on the influence of the environment as a weapon despite the existing conventions, such as the example of the HAARP system based in Alaska shows


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    April 28, 1997

    U.S. Department of Defense
    Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs)

    http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=674

    Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025
    A Research Paper Presented To
    Air Force 2025 by Col Tamzy J. House, Lt Col James B. Near, Jr.
    LTC William B. Shields (USA) Maj Ronald J. Celentano
    Maj David M. Husband, Maj Ann E. Mercer Maj James E. Pugh
    August 1996

    http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
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    The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction:
    "Owning the Weather" for Military Use
    by Michel Chossudovsky

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html
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  14. the criminal thought says:

    International Humanitarian Law - Treaties & Documents
    Convention on the prohibition of military or any hostile use of environmental modification techniques,

    10 December 1976.

    (Think !!!!) 1976!

    http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/FULL/460?OpenDocument

    Reflecting the interest of a secure peace, and the desire to halt the arms race, and to bring the general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control, and to save mankind from the threat of new types of warfare ..

    Have opened recognizing the scientific and technical progress may break new ground in the environmental change,

    In commemoration of the Declaration of the United Nations Human Development, adopted on June 16, 1972,

    Recognizing that the use of environmental modification techniques for peaceful purposes, the mutual relations of man and nature could contribute to improve the conservation and improvement of development for the benefit of present and future generations,

    Nevertheless, recognizing that military or any other hostile benefits of such techniques could have effects extremely harmful to the welfare of mankind ..

    will it bring any state to be allowed as a non-party weather weapons used, not even from orbit or deep space as this, under Article 1 "widespread, long-lasting or severe effects in the sense of destruction, damage or injury to any other State Party" has.

    Be mentioned explicitly:
    - Earthquakes or changes in the Earth's crust
    - Tsunamis
    - Weather phenomena such as cyclones, tornadoes, cloud formation, precipitation / rain
    - Disruption of the ecological balance of a region
    - The influence of ocean currents, etc.

    And that was in 1976.

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  16. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Heidi

    Exactly.

    We still know too little.

    That's why I'm here on the barrel.

  17. Miguel says:

    Hi Magnus,

    I recommend that you (and everyone else) urgently the following video from "conrebbi" (from 13.03.2011) to look at.

    I think this should answer your questions regarding HAARP / earthquake weapon exhaustive!

    "Japan's mega-quake description of the earthquake weapon"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO-1DF5RKQ8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

  18. the criminal thought says:

    I think it would be a revolution.
    If people would really understand what is happening.

    The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction:
    "Owning the Weather" for Military Use
    by Michel Chossudovsky

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html

    ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..
    Stratospheric sulfate aerosols (geoengineering)

    Former FBI chief agent demands the immediate STOP
    German
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46uj09oFvko

    The former agent of the IRS in the U.S.
    Joe Bannister, talks about the genocide taking place by "chemtrails" Stratospheric sulfate aerosols (geoengineering)
    - Toxic aerosols over the heads of people,
    by aircraft are sprayed. This is taking place worldwide.

    The Ex-IRS Agent and the chemtrails genocide
    German
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0gSeJYWPMw

    ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ..

    must see! mind-blowing photos
    Cloud formations

    Weather Warfare

    http://weatherwars.info/?p=92
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    The Military's Pandora's Box

    by Dr. Nick Begich and Jeane Manning

    This article was prepared to Provide a summary of the contents of a book written in 1995, Which Describes to entirely new class of weapons. The weapons and their effects are Described in the following pages. The United States Navy and Air Force have joined with the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, to build a prototype for a ground based "Star Wars" weapon system located in the remote bush country of Alaska.

    http://www.haarp.net/

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    Seismic Monitor
    http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
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    The HAARP Project - Holes in Heaven - 01/06

    Documentation / German
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx0-cEG2CSA

    see Dr. East Bernard Lund
    He was the initiator of a precursor of the HAARP project in the 1980s, for its technology, he has several patents.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Eastlund

    HAARP
    U.S. patent no. 4,686,605
    ----------------------------
    United States Patent
    4,686,605
    Lund East
    August 11, 1987
    ----------------------------
    Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere,
    ionosphere, and / or magnetosphere

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/14978672/HAARP-USPatentNo4686605
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    Basic Information on HAARP
    German
    http://www.erinnerungsforum.net/forum/umwelt/haarp/45/?wap2
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    Angels Still Do not Play This HAARP
    1:17:53

    The sequel to 'Angels Do not Play This HAARP'. This documentary is a visual accompaniment to the book by Dr. Nick Begich, 'Angels Still Do not Play This HAARP: Advances in Tesla Technology'.

    docid =- 8066925138937638623 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2804238542173218531 #
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    S Patent No. 4,686,605 - August 1987

    "Method and apparatus for altering a region of the Earth's atmosphere, ionosphere and / or Magnetosphere"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,712,155 - December 1987

    "Method and apparatus for creating an artificial, by electron-heated region of plasma Zyklotronenresonanz"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,038,664 - August 1991

    "Method for producing a shell of relativistic particles in a (certain) above the Earth"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,068,669 - November 1991

    "Energy beams" system

    U.S. Patent No. 5,218,374 - June 1993

    "Energy-beam system with radiant, from printed circuit-element resonant cavities"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,293,176 - March 1994

    "Folded-dipole antenna cross grid"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,202,689 - April 1993

    "Lightweight focusing reflector for space applications"

    U.S. Patent No. 5,041,834 - August 1991

    "Artificial ionospheric plasma-dirigible shaped mirror"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,999,637 - March 1991

    "Creating artificial ion clouds over the earth"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,954,709 - September 1990

    "Directional, high-resolution gamma-ray detector"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,817,495 - April 1989

    "Defensive system to distinguish between objects in space"

    U.S. Patent No. 4,873,928 - October 1989

    Initiator of a precursor of the HAARP project
    East Bernard J. Lund (* 1938, † 12 December 2007) was an American physicist and inventor.
    BIBLIOGRAPHY-EAST LUND
    http://www.eastlundscience.com/BIBLIOGRAPHY.html

  19. Tester says:

    I can only confirm this as electronics, entirely plausible. Consider that Tesla with a fist-sized mechanical resonator already brought to the building shake, resonance funtioniert electrically the same. Patents to be found on the homepage of the amino Patenentbehörde, not even hidden.

    The graphs of the HAARP activity can be seen on the homepage of HAARP and you see that has fired the first earthquake in Japan a few days ago at the same time full HAARP ampoule. The same as before the quake Haiti.

  20. Tester says:

    Pull up the time in, one could trace it to its source, it was an investment in Neveda as Fulford has said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUG7N8wcHts&tracker=False

  21. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Tester

    Thank you for pointing out the principle of resonance.

    I remember spontaneously as I was fourteen when at my tram stop, and to the same check at the school learned times, probably right at the point where a thick (estimated 15 cm diameter) lamppost with his bare hands, tested whether this is reality functioning.

    After about two minutes shook and shook the part about 6 meters high, sang and swung so serious that I was even afraid that account and I had a continuation of the trial as a good young citizens.

    I had the feeling that it could "Fatzer" soon now, and it still hissed after a while when I was drained.

  22. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ @ All the thought criminals

    You and thank you for all the many references and links, which of course I could not yet examine all in detail.

    But I think there is already an impressive collection of material zusammmengekommen so that anyone who is interested to continue their education to the point fast and versatile.

  23. Haarpo says:

    A very general idea:
    If you so deliberately, we have since the 2nd World War I actually met any really new weapons. But does that mean there are none? That's when all the monies that are put into the research - quite unlikely. Probably they are only hidden from us.
    I think there will come a time when coming out, what the guys behind us in our "democratic system" is all about who planned and developed. and then hopefully those responsible are held accountable. If this was triggered earthquakes in Japan actually controlled by a machine, man-made, then it would be just evil, despicable, a war crime that is punished.

  24. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Haarpo

    In fact.

    Very stringent, the input argument.

    Too much really new at weapon technology has not really presented us since 1945.

    When you consider that - even official - did you progress in other science and technology since then, which seems odd in fact.

    I agree with the conclusion of course also.

  25. Joe says:

    Here's an interesting link of his comments included:

  26. the criminal thought says:

    @ Haarpo

    What the so plan everything for us?
    mankind would only read the book of JPHoldren, O)
    Obama's science adviser, Holdren advocated forced sterilization,
    Impose coercive abortion, the drinking water is a anti-fertility agent, a global totalitarian dictatorship (Planetary Regime) etc.

    the mind-blowing book for eugenicists

    Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.

    Ecoscience:
    POPULATION,
    RESOURCES,
    ENVIRONMENT

    PAUL R. EHRLICH
    STANFORD UNIVERSITY

    ANNE H. EHRLICH
    STANFORD UNIVERSITY

    John P. Holdren
    UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY

    WH FREEMAN AND COMPANY
    San Francisco

    Publication Information: Book Title: Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment. Contributors: Paul R. Ehrlich - author, Anne H. Ehrlich - author, John P. Holdren, Publisher: WH Freeman. Place of Publication: San Francisco.Publication Year: 1977

    Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment
    by Anne H. Ehrlich, Paul R. Ehrlich, John P. Holdren. 1052 pgs. (Online)

    Page 837: Compulsory abortions would be legal Indeed, it has been Concluded that compulsory population-control laws, including laws even Requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing constitution if the population crisis became Sufficiently severe to endanger the society.

    Page 786: Single mothers should have their babies taken away by the government, or they could be forced to have abortions to carry out One way this might be to insist that disapproval of all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption-especially those born to minors, who are not capable of GeneRally properly caring for a child alone. If a single mother really wished to keep her baby, she might be Obliged to go through adoption proceedings and her ability to Demonstrate support and care for it. Adoption proceedings probably should remain more difficult for single people than for married couples, in recognition of the relative difficulty of raising children alone. It would even be possible to require pregnant single women to marry or have abortions, perhaps as an alternative to placement for adoption, Depending on the society.

    Page 787-8: Mass sterilization of drugs in humans though the water supply is OK as long as it does not harm livestock Adding a Sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such Sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals, it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects, and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock.

    Page 786-7: The government could control women's reproduction by sterilizing them or implanting either mandatory long-term birth control Involuntary fertility control ... A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the greater difficulty of the Relatively operation than vasectomy, Might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men ... The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.

    Page 838: The kind of people who cause "social deterioration" can not be compelled to have children If some individuals contribute to general social deterioration by overproducing children, and if the need is compelling, they can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility- just as they can be required to exercise responsibility in their resource-consumption patterns-providing they are not denied equal protection.

    Page 838: Nothing is wrong or illegal about the government dictating family size
    In today's world, however, the number of children in a family is a matter of profound public concern. The law regulates other highly personal matters. For example, no one may lawfully have more than one spouse at a time. Why should the law not be able to prevent a person from having more than two children?

    Page 942-3: A “Planetary Regime” should control the global economy and dictate by force the number of children allowed to be bornToward a Planetary Regime
    …Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime—sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market.The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.

    Page 917: We will need to surrender national sovereignty to an armed international police force If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily Involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization to.

    Page 749: Pro-family and pro-birth Attitudes are caused by ethnic chauvinism
    Another related issue that seems to encourage a pronatalists attitude in many people is the question of the differential reproduction of social or ethnic groups. Many people seem to be possessed by fear that their group may be outbred by other groups. White Americans and South Africans are worried there will not be too many blacks, and vice versa. The Jews in Israel are disturbed by the high birth rates of Israeli Arabs, Protestants are worried about Catholics, about LBOs and Hausas. Obviously, if everyone tries to outbreed everyone else, the result will be catastrophe for ave This is another case of the "tragedy of the commons," wherein the "commons" is the planet Earth. Fortunately, it appears that, at least in the DCs, virtually all groups are exercising reproductive restraint.

    Page 944: As of 1977, we are facing a global overpopulation catastrophe that must be resolved at all costs by the year 2000 Humanity can not afford to muddle through the rest of the twentieth century, the risks are too great, and the stakes are too high . This may be the last opportunity to choose our own and our descendants' destiny. Failing to choose or making the wrong choices may lead to catastrophe. But it must never be forgotten that the right choices could lead to a much better world.

    Source: http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

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    Full Context: High-res scans of all pages cited in this report
    Photographs of Ecoscience, inside and out

    *
    Other early publications include Energy (1971), Human Ecology (1973), Energy in Transition (1980), Earth and the Human Future (1986), Strategic Defences and the Future of the Arms Race (1987), Building Global Security Through Cooperation (1990 ), and conversion of MilitaryR & D (1998).

    http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
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    *
    P. Holdren is advisor to President Barack Obama
    for Science and Technology,
    Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST)
    Holdren was previously the Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, director of the Science, Technology, and Public Policy Program at the School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, and Director of the Woods Hole Research Center.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren

    John Holdren (* in Sewickley, Pennsylvania) is an American physicist, Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. Holdren is also director of Harvard University, based at the Science, Technology, and Public Policy Program at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. In December 2008 it was announced that Holdren U.S. President Barack Obama should scientific advice.

    In der Vergangenheit ist Holdren dafür eingetreten, schwangere Frauen aus bestimmten gesellschaftlichen Gruppen zur Abtreibung zu zwingen, um somit die Vermehrung in bestimmten Schichten zu verhindern. Oder man könnte zur Bevölkerungskontrollen auch dem Trinkwasser ein unfruchtbar machendes Mittel zusetzen. Diese Position findet sich in einer Schrift Holdrens aus dem Jahre 1977 wieder, deren Aussagen jedoch jüngst von seinem Büro dementiert wurden. Auch vertritt er die Auffassung, daß selbst Neugeborene biologisch noch keine
    menschlichen Wesen seien, sondern sich erst durch Sozialisation und Ernährung zu solchen entwickelten.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren

    Obamas Wissenschaftsberater Holdren befürwortet Zwangssterilisation
    F. William Engdahl
    Barack Obama hat John Holdren zum neuen Wissenschaftsberater des Präsidenten gewählt, weil dieser zu den prominenten Verfechtern des längst diskreditierten Schwindels von der Klimaerwärmung zählt. Weniger bekannt über Holdren ist hingegen, dass er Ansichten zur Eugenik befürwortet, im Vergleich zu denen manche Nazi-Eugeniker fast humanitär wirken könnten. Unter anderem befürwortet Holdren die Zwangssterilisation von Paaren, die »zuviele« Kinder haben. Diesen Teil von Holdrens Wissenschaft kehren die liberalen US-Medien, die lieber die Mär von der Erderwärmung verbreiten, gern unter den

    »… dem Trinkwasser ein unfruchtbar machendes Mittel zusetzen …«

    Es folgt eine Zusammenfassung der Thesen seines Buches Ecoscience:

    – Frauen könnten auch gegen ihren Willen zur Abtreibung gezwungen werden;

    – Die Bevölkerung könnte insgesamt sterilisiert werden, indem man dem Trinkwasser oder Grundnahrungsmitteln ein Mittel zusetzt, das unfruchtbar macht;

    – Alleinstehenden Müttern oder Müttern im Mädchenalter sollte man gegen ihren Willen die Kinder wegnehmen und sie anderen Paaren übergeben, die sie großziehen;

    – Menschen, die zum »gesellschaftlichen Verfall« beitragen (also unerwünschten Personen), »kann man gesetzlich dazu verpflichten, bei der Reproduktion Verantwortungsbewusstsein walten zu lassen« – im Klartext: sie zur Abtreibung oder Sterilisation zu zwingen;

    – Ein nationenübergreifendes »Planetary Regime« (Planetarisches Regime) sollte die Kontrolle über die Weltwirtschaft übernehmen und auch über die intimsten Details des Lebens der Amerikaner bestimmen – mithilfe einer bewaffneten internationalen Polizeitruppe.

    Im selben Buch schreibt Holdren (S. 837): »… verbindliche Gesetze zur

    Bevölkerungskontrolle, sogar Gesetze zur Zwangssterilisation, könnten unter der geltenden Verfassung zulässig sein, falls die Bevölkerungskrise zu einer ernsten Bedrohung für die Gesellschaft werden sollte …«

    Darüber hinaus schlägt Holdren eine weltweite totalitäre Diktatur vor – er bezeichnet sie als »The Planetary Regime« –, die von oben ideale Bevölkerungszahlen diktieren soll: »… ein umfassendes Plantery Regime, [das] die Entwicklung, Verwaltung und Verteilung aller Rohstoffe überwachen könnte …, nicht nur in der Atmosphäre und den Ozeanen, sondern auch in Frischwasserreservoiren wie Flüssen und Seen«.

    Er setzt hinzu: »… dem Planetary Regime könnte man die Verantwortung übertragen, die optimale Bevölkerung für die Welt und jede einzelne Region zu bestimmen und auch vermittelnd einzugreifen, um die Anteile der einzelnen Länder innerhalb der Beschränkungen für die jeweilige Region festzulegen …Das Regime hätte bestimmte Vollmachten, die Einhaltung der vereinbarten Beschränkungen durchzusetzen.«

  27. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ der Gedankenverbrecher

    OMANNOMANN!

  28. the criminal thought says:

    Quote
    David Keith (Geoengineer)
    ab min 07:34
    Es ist eine empirische Frage, wie die Leute tatsächlich darauf reagieren werden, wenn sie das erfahren.

    What in the world since the spray? - German version
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwWz997dgc0

    Ich frage mich wie werdet Ihr darauf reagieren ?
    Diese geisteskranken “Soziopathen” sprühen weltweit
    seit über 10 Jahren 10 bis 20 Megatonnen Nanopartikel
    ua Aluminium-, Strontium- und Barium über unsere Köpfe.

    Die besprühen uns wie Ungeziefer !

    In Vitro Toxicity of Aluminum Nanoparticles in Rat Alveolar Macrophages
    Descriptive Note : Final rept. Jun 1993-Mar 2001

    http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA445568&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf

    Bei AAAS treffen wir wieder auf unseren geisteskranken Soziopathen John P. Holdren … derzeit bei US-Präsident Barack Obama der Berater für Wissenschaft und Technologie.
    Holdren ist Vorsitzender des Gremiums von Innovations:
    Technology | Governance | Globalization,
    eines vierteljährlich erscheinenden Magazins
    von MIT Press über “unternehmerische” Lösungen für globale Probleme.

    AAAS President John P. Holdren

    http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2007/0216am_holdren_address.shtml

    AAAS

    http://www.aaas.org/

    http://news.aaas.org/2011_annual_meeting/0220holdren-plenary-talk.shtml

    >>In 2025 das Wetter besitzen<> hat mit Wetter so nichts zu tun >>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xot1EI4s6j0

  29. CrisisMaven sagt:

    Ich habe versucht, das gesamte Ausmass der Japan-Atomkatastrophe und was sie fuer Europa bedeutet hier uebersichtlich zusammenzufassen:
    http://www.dasgelbeforum.de.org/forum_entry.php?id=208864

  30. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ ChrisisMaven

    Schön von Dir zu hören!

    Leider war Dein Kommentar erst in der Spam-Meile versumpft.

    Zum Glück fand mein Admin ihn dann noch.

    LG

    Magnus

  31. István Szendi sagt:

    So genägigte Arme,

    Haarp ist Menschenprodukt in der Demokratie, mit der Untestützung des Grundgesetzes.
    Diese sind alle auch Menschenprodukte. Die Wähler sind einbezogen für die gewalttätige Militär.
    Die Deutsche sind damit für den III. WKzustimmendes Volk. Toll ? Wut ? Armes Nr. 1 Fahrzeugsherstel ” leeres Volk”.

    Herr Barack ist ein Mensch der in der USA Intervetionen Nr. ab 53, die nächste machte.
    Ohne politische Entscheidung gibt es kein Haarp. kein Chelmtrail.
    Jetzt ist tiefst Dunkel in meiner Kopfhaut.

    Damit mache ich nicht mehr weiter. Der Beweis ist mein jetztiger Schrift.

    Bitte, fürs Volk nicht viel schreiben, sondern die Zusammnenhänge verö
    ffentlichen.
    Diese Bande sind viel mehr schlimmer als die Drogenmaffia unter Volksbegeehrung.

    Es kommt schnell das Ende, das die Natur ohne Wissenschaftlersbande vorplante.
    Sei treu zur Natur. Du hast kein bessere Wahl.

    Sztyopka ab 24.03.2011

  32. Dude says:

    Folgendes sagt doch schonmal einiges..

    Quote:
    Was Wissenschaftler jetzt bestätigen, lässt aufhorchen: In den Tagen vor dem katastrophalen Tohoku-Beben, das die Stärke 9 erreichte, zeigte sich eine eklatante Temperaturerhöhung in der Ionosphäre. Die Maximalwerte seien wenige Stunden vor dem Beben erreicht gewesen, so erklärt Dimitar Ouzounov vom NASA-Goddard-Raumflugzentrum.
    [...]
    Nicht zuletzt stellt sich in diesem Kontext tatsächlich zunehmend die Frage, inwieweit umgekehrt eine atmosphärische Anregung zum Auslöser von Beben werden kann, wie unter anderem auch HAARP-Kritiker erklären. Immerhin, HAARP, angeblich ein rein ziviles und offenes Forschungsprojekt, ist eine Anlage, durch die ganz gezielt elektromagnetische Strahlung in die Ionosphäre geschickt wird, um sie aufzuheizen. Wenn die Kopplung besteht, kann sie dann in beide Richtungen wirken? Dass Erdbeben und Hochatmosphäre tatsächlich in einer physikalischen Wechselbeziehung zueinander stehen, das zumindest unterstreichen jetzt die neuen Erkenntnisse.

  33. Dude says:

    Nachtrag: Sage meinen Dank für den Schreibstil auf dieser Seite!
    Wenn die Themenlage nicht so ernst wäre, würd ich jetzt nicht mehr schreiben, da ich tot wär; zu Tode gelacht… :-)

  34. Magnus Wolf Goeller says:

    @ Dude

    Ich habe den – leider zwischen DEBKA-”Beiträgen” hängenden – meiner Meinung nach ausgezeichneten Artikel von Rétyis auch gelesen und frage mich ebenfalls, wie der meinige schon deutlich machte, was da Masse ist.

    Die Frage, ob ein Phänomen in beide Richtungen wirken könne, ernstlich zu stellen, ist zuwenigst logisch.

    Dank auch noch für das Lob bezüglich meines Schreibstils: das höre ich natürlich gerne.

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